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Im leaning more with this. Events in a religion are only as much as they are interpreted by the individual.
Just like most holidays in the Catholic religions.
Many of them have nothing to do with what the holiday has to do with.
Christmas and Easter are both Pagan religions. Not to mention, that both of them are also overplayed commerically.


the same applies to many other things within Christianity. Worship for example is not about how loud you sing, or whether you get all emotional while worshipping, but it is about where your heart is at. Are you really focused on God and worshipping him for who He is, or are you focusing on achieving some particular "feeling" or emotion?

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the same applies to many other things within Christianity. Worship for example is not about how loud you sing, or whether you get all emotional while worshipping, but it is about where your heart is at. Are you really focused on God and worshipping him for who He is, or are you focusing on achieving some particular "feeling" or emotion?


I feel like we basically have the same views on religion. I feel the same way about singing, "worshipping" etc, its just I added those two because they are known to be the "Big Catholic Holidays".

People shouldnt be judged by their views on a religion. If so then there is no religion as no two people will have the same exact views.
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I feel like we basically have the same views on religion. I feel the same way about singing, "worshipping" etc, its just I added those two because they are known to be the "Big Catholic Holidays".

People shouldnt be judged by their views on a religion. If so then there is no religion as no two people will have the same exact views.


I think they are pretty big holidays in every denomination of Christianity. As far as not judging people by their views on religion, I'm always wary when someone says things like that. If we start accepting anyone who believes anything then we will lose what it really means to be Christian. I think it is our place as Christians to be discerning about what our brothers and sisters in Christ believe.
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I think they are pretty big holidays in every denomination of Christianity. As far as not judging people by their views on religion, I'm always wary when someone says things like that. If we start accepting anyone who believes anything then we will lose what it really means to be Christian. I think it is our place as Christians to be discerning about what our brothers and sisters in Christ believe.


Yeah obviously there is fundamentals/beliefs to every religion. But what I am saying from there/how far you take it is all up to the individual and no one person should judge you about that.
As for them being big holidays, they are, but now days they are all celebrated for the wrong reasons. Christmas is celebrated to receive presents,not even giving presents anymore. Easter is about getting candy and having Easter egg hunts. Stuff like htis I dont consider to b Catholics even though they do, however people have their own views on everything. For example, I am a big biology person, and pre med etc. I feel Evolution is 100% correct, does this mean I am a bad Catholic? In my view no, its just one section of Christianity I dont believe they are correct in.
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Yeah obviously there is fundamentals/beliefs to every religion. But what I am saying from there/how far you take it is all up to the individual and no one person should judge you about that.
As for them being big holidays, they are, but now days they are all celebrated for the wrong reasons. Christmas is celebrated to receive presents,not even giving presents anymore. Easter is about getting candy and having Easter egg hunts. Stuff like htis I dont consider to b Catholics even though they do, however people have their own views on everything. For example, I am a big biology person, and pre med etc. I feel Evolution is 100% correct, does this mean I am a bad Catholic? In my view no, its just one section of Christianity I dont believe they are correct in.


well, see the problem is that most people would say believing something like evolution to be 100% true means you don't believe that the Bible is 100% true, since the Biblical account of creation is about God creating man and that would pose a pretty big problem to Christianity since it is based largely on the Bible being true.
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well, see the problem is that most people would say believing something like evolution to be 100% true means you don't believe that the Bible is 100% true, since the Biblical account of creation is about God creating man and that would pose a pretty big problem to Christianity since it is based largely on the Bible being true.


Evolution happened and is still happening. That does not make the bible wrong. Who is to say exactly how to interpret the bible? Some people interpret the bible 100% literally and others do not. They can still both accept Jesus as their savior and be Christians. Science and religion should coexist, not be at war
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Evolution happened and is still happening. That does not make the bible wrong. Who is to say exactly how to interpret the bible? Some people interpret the bible 100% literally and others do not. They can still both accept Jesus as their savior and be Christians. Science and religion should coexist, not be at war


There is absolutely no reason why Science and God cannot coexist with eachother. Maybe the Earth did take millions of years and maybe it did happen through the big bang theory, but God is the one who made all of that possible. The bright star over the 3 wise men when Jesus was born, Science narrowed down that the star that the wise men saw was actually a star on the very last stages of life before dying out, the last stages meaning that the star blows up, which causes a massive, bright light in the dark sky.

There is no need to take sides, both sides can coexist within each other. I forget who has this in their signature but:

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well, see the problem is that most people would say believing something like evolution to be 100% true means you don't believe that the Bible is 100% true, since the Biblical account of creation is about God creating man and that would pose a pretty big problem to Christianity since it is based largely on the Bible being true.


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There is absolutely no reason why Science and God cannot coexist with eachother. Maybe the Earth did take millions of years and maybe it did happen through the big bang theory, but God is the one who made all of that possible. The bright star over the 3 wise men when Jesus was born, Science narrowed down that the star that the wise men saw was actually a star on the very last stages of life before dying out, the last stages meaning that the star blows up, which causes a massive, bright light in the dark sky.

There is no need to take sides, both sides can coexist within each other. I forget who has this in their signature but:


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Evolution happened and is still happening. That does not make the bible wrong. Who is to say exactly how to interpret the bible? Some people interpret the bible 100% literally and others do not. They can still both accept Jesus as their savior and be Christians. Science and religion should coexist, not be at war


CPK and Bean, you guys just prooved exactly what I was tryin to proove. You dont have to be Christian and interpret the bible 100% for what it says. It upt o you how you interpret it, its up to you what parts you believe are true.

Doom, this is just a random thought but, have you ever played the telephone game when you were younger? You sit in a circle, one person thinks of something and then it goes around the circle and when it gets back to the person they say what they really htough and then they say what ended up coming to them? If you did you would know what came to them as not the real message, it was a distorted version because it got lost in translation over person to person.

Do you think that over the thousands of years where the story was told, some parts of it could have gotten a bit distorted?

Have you ever read the book "Inherit the Wind"
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CPK and Bean, you guys just prooved exactly what I was tryin to proove. You dont have to be Christian and interpret the bible 100% for what it says. It upt o you how you interpret it, its up to you what parts you believe are true.

Doom, this is just a random thought but, have you ever played the telephone game when you were younger? You sit in a circle, one person thinks of something and then it goes around the circle and when it gets back to the person they say what they really htough and then they say what ended up coming to them? If you did you would know what came to them as not the real message, it was a distorted version because it got lost in translation over person to person.

Do you think that over the thousands of years where the story was told, some parts of it could have gotten a bit distorted?

Have you ever read the book "Inherit the Wind"


You are thinking of a game called 'Chinese Whispers'
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You are thinking of a game called 'Chinese Whispers'


We called it telephone. Concept is the same. Not sure how the Chinese got involved with this haha
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