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Apr 6 2014 01:46pm
Quote (neekzisonfire @ Apr 6 2014 03:44pm)
i agree with your points completely

the reason the world works the way it does.. the reason it's more difficult to make right choices is because God is watching, and testing us
we were put on this earth to live our lives the way that we choose to live. and if we choose a path of darkness, then we will see no light in the next world.
however, if we choose a path of righteousness, God will graciously accept us into his kingdom and embrace us with his grace and mercy


the path of righteousness comes thru GOD,t he spirit of GOD guiding and working through you... Must be baptzied with fire and the holy spirit (being born again) before you can work for GOD

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the path of righteousness comes thru GOD,t he spirit of GOD guiding and acting in you.... Must be baptzied with fire and the holy spirit (being born again) before you can work for GOD


if it was God acting through us, then making right choices wouldn't be difficult. nothing is difficult for the Lord.
it's difficult because we are not God, and though God is within us, we are having our own decisions tested

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if it was God acting through us, then making right choices wouldn't be difficult. nothing is difficult for the Lord.


GOD working in us, I miss worded that
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Apr 6 2014 01:50pm
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nothing is difficult for the Lord.
it's difficult because we are not God, and though God is within us, we are having our own decisions tested


I agree with all of this. :)

we finally found something we can agree on :D

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Apr 6 2014 01:51pm
Quote (ferf @ Apr 6 2014 03:50pm)
I agree with all of this. :)

we finally found something we can agree on :D


it's what i've been saying since my first post
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Apr 6 2014 09:23pm
I'll frame my writing from the perspective that ferf is talking w/ regards to eternal salvation/heaven/eternity.

Some people are uncomfortable with the idea that they have no choice in being saved, sure we can ask god through our free will but it is still up to god & only with him in us can we be saved for eternity.

One reason why some people are uncomfortable with this is because it takes away their sinful need/desire to feel as though they have the last say over their eternal existence, but this is rather naive as we did not create ourselves or this world to begin with, god did. It's understandable to feel this need as satan has some influence over this life so we're easily led astray with out an unshakeable faith in god, but it's still not wise as it's not of god.

Think of our existence as a painting, & like a painting you may question who made it, but you don't question that it was made, just like our life/the world around - you may question who made it but you cannot deny it is before you & was created by a masterful creator which we call god, and thus we are not gods but a by-product of god our creator and likewise only he can save us for all eternity.

Hope this provides subsidence for anyone struggling to give up control & grasp faith in god our creator.

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I'll frame my writing from the perspective that ferf is talking w/ regards to eternal salvation/heaven/eternity.

Some people are uncomfortable with the idea that they have no choice in being saved, sure we can ask god through our free will but it is still up to god & only with him in us can we be saved for eternity.

One reason why some people are uncomfortable with this is because it takes away their sinful need/desire to feel as though they have the last say over their eternal existence, but this is rather naive as  we did not create ourselves or this world to begin with, god did.  It's understandable to feel this need as satan has some influence over this life so we're easily led astray with out an unshakeable faith in god, but it's still not wise as it's not of god.

Think of our existence as a painting, & like a painting you may question who made it, but you don't question that it was made, just like our life/the world around - you may question who made it but you cannot deny it is before you & was created by a masterful creator which we call god, and thus we are not gods but a by-product of god our creator and likewise only he can save us for all eternity.

Hope this provides subsidence for anyone struggling to give up control & grasp faith in god our creator.


Bravo mike, very well said. :)
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