Do you seriously think Jesus came to Earth to make a religion?

Jesus came to give his life for ours. Jesus said not to be like the religious leaders. If I wanted a religion I'd go be a buddah or an Arab or something.

The Lord came to love and to give his life for us. He made us not a religion.

This post was edited by Rushton on Apr 23 2012 07:54am

Jesus did not come to abolish the law, he came to fulfill it. He said not to be like the religious leaders of THAT time because they distorted God's law and made hypocrites of themselves. If Jesus opposed religion, why did he train the apostles to set up HIS church after he died? Why did the apostles create churches? Why did the apostles create leadership within the church? Why did the apostles instruct people on how to worship and conduct themselves in a worship service?

Also, what separates Christianity from Buddhists or Muslims? The fact that we serve the true living God is the only difference. But that reason alone does not make us "non-religious".

And yes, I think Jesus came to save. Those who are saved are called followers of his (Christians) and now adhere to the strict guidelines of what it means to live as a Christian. Again, Jesus did not come to abolish religion or the law, he came to reform it and make it open to all people.. not just Jews.

This post was edited by Dune1 on Apr 23 2012 08:06am

lol I'm done.

Done without giving biblical references for your opinion? I believe as Christians we are to reason with one another and be able to back our beliefs up with biblical direction. I guess if you feel like you don't need to, that's your own decision.

i've heard over and over again in church that body is the temple of God.

the people that strongly favor religion and church are the ones trying to run a church

The reason people go to church is not for religion or the few people in charge. It's for the person or persons they want to hear, talk with, discuss with

I've seen a prototype church go from 20 members to 200, in 4 weeks. Because of a speaker that stopped college temporarily, to reach us. (7th grade-12th grade)

After he left, it went from 300 members to 20 members in 4 weeks.

I went somewhere else for bout 10 years and it has never grown past 50 members. Never had a visionary, imo. (6th grade-12th grade)

history in this sense has always repeated itself for me

in 3 other churches as well

God has purposes for his church. For some, they will be large to better impact the community. For others, they will be small to better edify the body. Do all churches need to have these 2 goals within them? Absolutely. Some churches do it better than others, and have the means to do it better than others. But the common thread is CHURCH. It is something that was established by the apostles, and passed on to church leaders around the world. The bible says we are not to neglect the gathering of the saints, nor are we to neglect worshiping together. Religion is nothing more than a gathering of people united under a common belief. Christianity is just that. To try and distort the definition of religion in order to sound more spiritual is silly.

a great sorrow is for the church not to have visionaries, who can see other visionaries

all churches see this in the end. Though i've never seen a person change, nor will i see a church change

i've seen 2 crash and disappear. both having 200+ members at one time

where the visionaries go, so do the people