nn for censorship? i'm sorry you are sensitive to something so innocuous as a few series of letters, and i will do my best to attend to your needs more dutifully in the future.

This a christian subforum man Not the PARD...

I agree with there Views on race and ethnicity, Fred Phelps ""we don't believe in physical violence of any kind, and the Scripture doesn't support racism. ..."

And

Their views on homosexuality are partially based on teachings found in the Old Testament, specifically Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, which they interpret to mean that homosexual behavior is detestable, and that homosexuals should be put to death, respectively

But do I agree with the death part ? Ofc not, but is homosexuality wrong? Yes, and do I agree with them going to funerals to cause a ruckus? Heck no, but you're forgetting 1 thing, they are believers in Christ, and they have not acted blasphemy (as far as I know) so there should be no HATE from me spiritually towards them. Let them do what they want, in the end.. They gave there life to jesus, just like me, there ways of "Expressing" or teaching could be wrong, but was I teaching the gospel when I was dancing around in my underwear for njaguar? Ofcourse not, we all have our problems. I really just can hope and pray for the best for them. Do they have weird political views about barack obama? They think he is the "AntiChrist" "The Westboro Baptist Church believes that Barack Obama is the Antichrist, and that he forms an Unholy Trinity with Satan and Pope Benedict XVI, who they believe is the False Prophet.[82]"

And fred Phelps says "He is going to hell" Which is not true, (I dont know) but phelps is wrong for saying that because he is only MAN, that could be an act of blasphemy though, not sure.

Stopped when he said it was unnatural. Masturbation and other form of self gratification acts related to sexual impulses/desires are common occurrence in nature.

As for if masterbation being a sin or not, if you believe in God and his word, then yes it is, because as a believer to go against God's will is a sin.

It is unnatural and I love how you say "nature" as you think we are related to monkeys? no way brother! we are human, bodies of christ, it is UNNATURAL for us, sexual impulses/desires are the devil trying to bring you down

Most recent studies show we are related to many things ( albeit in a remote way ) this should be common knowledge.

Also as for unnatural, I believe we are arguing semantics but.

By seeing the range of humans that have those urges, I wouldn't call it unnatural since it's not deviating from what we call the "norm".

I agree to a extent, we are related ofcourse, but not even closely to monkeys or other animals (That's why it's un natural) for humans to do it. Arguing semantics? It's true to me that if we commit sexual sin/etc we will suffer from it, It happens to everyone/me, the guy in the video explains what happens when you do (if you even watch it).

Also look here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788?ordinalpos=16&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum



This is just another reason why it's bad to do it, you loose testosterone, which is vital for getting a girl/etc (I wonder why I can never get the confidence to talk to girls/etc) Cause I was really bad at sexual sin, my time needs to stop, and god will be with me to help. Also (sorry to get technical) but when you have sexual intercourse with a girl (your p-word) secretes the lost 'minerals' if you will, that you loose from just "masterbating" so that even adds to my point that is is UN NATURAL.

Not only adds to my point.. I believe that is 100% how god intended us be like. Like he said in the bible numerous times, 1 man should be with 1 women, that is the whole point.

This post was edited by HighschoolTurd on Nov 9 2011 04:33pm

@ Bold, this argument makes little to no sense, regardless of which animal, desires are still there. You may say it is a sin and the devil is tempting you, but it is ESPECIALLY natural for us to be tempted, because, unlike other animals we have free will, and he tries to make us fall with him. Obviously from a Christian stand point, they ask for abstinence and resistance, but we are merely human, and are all sinners. Good luck in your efforts though .

@ Italic I'm not surprised, nature does things well, it only make sense that you get an elevated amount of testosterone to show dem females who's alpha. But the last part is not true, correlation does not imply causation. You having no confidence talking to girls it's not closely related to your sexual sins at all.

You cannot judge me, and tell me that because of me commiting sexual sin doesn't relate to me not talking to girls. I don't feel "alpha" when I am with girls, that is not true at all, I simply feel really nervous around them, and FOR ME, (and others I know). When I am with girls, I put them on the pedostool before me (ALWAYS) so you saying that I feel alpha is absolutely not true at all.


I think you should have a look here:
Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.
(1 Corinthians 6:18)

Sexual sin is against his own body, that means spiritual and physically and emotionally, I believe 100% that because of my sexual sin I have been doing in the past , is my result for not having a relationship with a girl and my social problems outside of the internet. That is something I have to live for with the rest of my life, unless I repent and stop now (Which I am doing my best) so I don't really need you to make assumptions about me either saying "Good luck in your efforts", when I know god is in my heart all the time, wherever I go, and whatever I should live as he is next to me standing watching over me.

I disagree with your natural for us to be tempted, when I became a born again christian, my views on that completely changed and my perspective on life, therefore the sexual sin was very minimal, now not only me, but others, have problems with internet/girls at school/ people who they hang out, (Put women down all the time) and makes you feel like the girls are the b-word, that's really how the mainstream music media portrays womens nowadays, it's sickening, and I stay and tread FAR FROM IT.

It's natural in a sense (your attractive to females) but it's not NATURAL To commit (SEXUAL) sin... why don't you understand that?

This post was edited by HighschoolTurd on Nov 9 2011 06:41pm