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if homosexuality was " right " then why isn't everyone homosexual? because no one would be left on the earth because there wouldn't be any reproduction!

i think if god intended for people to be homosexual then there would've been a way to reproduce.... eh?

you claim you dont see why god would have a problem with this, but it clearly says it in the bible...

once again you cant just ignore certain things....

" im going to ignore the commandment about murder " so if i ignore that commandment , then its the right thing to do to commit murder?

This post was edited by UncleMuscles on Jun 15 2011 08:28am

One fallacy is to compare humans to other animals. Are you saying that man is no better than a wild animal, whom has no control over their carnal instincts? Don't belittle your situation by using such a comparison, it does not serve you well. This same argument can be made for the most obscene of offenses (murder, rape, pedophilia, incest, segregation, violence, etc), so best not to tread down that path.

We are all imperfect, we all sin, and have problems in our lives that we struggle with. For some people, maybe it's alcohol, drugs, porn, sex, kleptomania, etc etc. We all have something that we cannot conquer by ourselves, and will always be there, waiting to sneak back into our lives the second we let our guards down.

if they ask for help, yes.
if they dont...then no.

if you just force feed this info to someone who deosn want need and or care for your input youll jsut look like an asshole.

keep in mind there is a difference between bringing it up gently with a person and randomly walking up and saying you WILL go to Hell, homosexual. Unless you read this *hands bible over*

An alcoholic isn't necessarily harming anyone else either (just one example). You could be given reasons why it is bad for you/others, but you'd likely just discount them. For instance, perhaps it hurts your family in some way, (whether perceived or real). The point isn't to get into an argument over what is or isn't harmful, but to point out that comparing yourself to an animal does you an injustice of great proportions. Something being harmful or not is not necessarily a good metric with which to judge an action. Additionally, harm is not always measurable in absolute amounts, but is sometimes much more subtle.

An example of harm being a bad indicator is spanking. On both sides of the argument you will hear a person say that it harms to child. Those that are against spanking say it harms the child to spank them. Those that are for spanking children saying it harms the child to withhold the spanking as a discipline.

*Citation needed. ^

Tell her how you know this to be true. As opposed to just offering your personal conjectures.

Only then might you convince them to change their opinion.



Did you read this from a verse, or....? Specifically, the point where we can hurt God through sinning.

This post was edited by Black487 on Jun 15 2011 01:37pm

Let me spell this out for you real quick. When we sin, we hurt God. Not hurt in the sense that if we sin to much He'll die, because He's all mighty. But hurt in the fact that we are His children and He does not wish us to do things that are wrong. Being homosexual may not look like it's hurting anyone, but it's hurting God, our Father. There are reasons He said that homosexuality is a sin. That does not mean He hates homosexuals. He loves them, just as He loves everyone else. We are told to love everyone just as Jesus loved us. Many people have forgotten this. I know that homosexuality is no worse than me swearing. But sin still hurts God. We are supposed to try to not sin, because of this.