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Jun 2 2011 08:19pm
Take an ancient history class & you'll see how false the bible really is, commandments stolen from Hammurabi's laws? lol.. and some of the stuff in the bible was written hundreds of years later.. that's a long game of "telephone", and go watch the passion of christ, yeah, go christianity!.. no offense, my whole family is catholic.. but still :p read the latin bible, don't disgrace susej.
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Jun 2 2011 10:01pm
Quote (MegaVovaN @ May 31 2011 10:02pm)
Q: What is christianity?



A: It is the belief that a two-thousand-year-old jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat an apple off a magical tree in a wonderland. 


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Jun 2 2011 10:05pm
never read any bible.
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Jun 2 2011 10:33pm
Atheists need to understand what Christianity is before making presumptions.

They see the wrong in one person (or anything wrong in the world) and uses that one point of view to judge the entire Christian population.

They take the information, purposely try to find faults, skew it in their own way and become 'Anti-God.'

What the funny part is, is when these people get saved - I was one of them


Quote (MegaVovaN @ May 31 2011 11:02pm)

Q: What is christianity?
A: It is the belief that a two-thousand-year-old jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat an apple off a magical tree in a wonderland. 


^ makes more sense than this:

Quote (Lifesong @ Jun 1 2011 05:46pm)

atheism: The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs (and eventually humans).


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Quote (nate86 @ Jun 1 2011 01:51pm)
There are lots and lots of people that know that in their present state they are not worthy of heaven's glory, but they can't bring themselves to believe that God would love them enough to forgive them of all of their sins. This is something that greatly saddens me. They try to do good works thinking that they might be able to earn the right to enter heaven. However, love cannot be earned. Love can only be given and received. The love of God is greater than anything we can ever see, feel, touch, or comprehend. He IS love. This is what the good news of the gospel is all about. Put aside your logic, put aside your pride, and look deep down inside yourself. There is nothing you need more than to be loved.


Amen.
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Jun 26 2011 01:29am
Quote (Manaburn @ Jun 2 2011 07:19pm)
Take an ancient history class & you'll see how false the bible really is, commandments stolen from Hammurabi's laws? lol.. and some of the stuff in the bible was written hundreds of years later.. that's a long game of "telephone", and go watch the passion of christ, yeah, go christianity!.. no offense, my whole family is catholic.. but still :p read the latin bible, don't disgrace susej.


If we are going to toss general statements about ancient history around we need dates so we can discuss what portions of the biblical texts correspond to what time periods. Even IF what you have said is true, it would not immediately prove the Bible is false. In making such a claim the burden of proof is upon you to give us a positive affirmative case as to how this makes the entire bible false. (The statement that the entire Bible is false is itself false, by the way, because events recorded in it have been justified to be plausibly or undeniably true historically.)

Also, even if the ten commandments did bear some resemblance to Hammurabi's laws, it does not inevitably mean they were plagiarized and adapted into the Hebrew culture. If you do some diligent study of the history of science, math, and philosophy, you will find it is not at all uncommon for people to come to the same conclusions without copying each other in the least. Here are couple of examples (forgive my lack of exact names, but these are easily verifiable):

1. We hail Isaac Newton as the inventor of Calculus, but it is also true that a contemporary of Newton (that means he lived at the same exact time as Newton) ALSO invented calculus, although he had never spoke with Newton or seen his work. In fact, he spent the last few years (five or more) of his life writing letters defending how he had never copied Newton. We now know this is true.

2. The two individuals who are best known as the discoverers of the double-helix (Crick and Watson, I believe) were given the Nobel Prize for their discovery. However, there was another scientist who was a contemporary of these two who, while in the hospital unable to leave due to a recent injury, literally figured out the double helix and could visually represent it IN HIS MIND. He never copied them, although he made the same discovery. This we also now know is true.

In a word, just because two things resemble each other, it does not mean they were copied. If all of Hammurabi's laws even closely resemble morality in the way given to the Hebrews, all it would do to show is that there was another culture that was capable of defining objective moral values and place them into law. This says nothing about the truth of the Bible, like many ancient historians actually recognize.
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Quote (Lifesong @ Jun 1 2011 06:18am)
Last night I got bored at work and listed a few of the most common objections to Christianity. I plan to eventually compile a document listed roughly 3 points in answer to each of these objections. (I came up with 21 on my own, but these are the most common ones, I think.)

1. I cannot be a Christian because I do not believe in God.
2. Jesus Christ is really an offshoot of other miracle workers mentioned in pagan history and his life combines elements from several myths (i.e., the virgin birth, the resurrection).
3. God cannot exist because there is too much pain and suffering in the world.
4. The Bible cannot be trusted because it contains contradictions and errors.
5. I cannot be a Christian because Christians are too intolerant of issues such as abortion and homosexuality.
6. Christianity cannot possibly be true when there are hundreds of other world religions in the world.
7. Christianity claims that it is the only truth in the world and that it is the only way to heaven. Given all the religions in the world, this is simply an intolerant claim.

Please share with me some of the ones you have heard.


what does " objection to christianty " mean ?
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Jun 28 2011 05:02pm
This should be here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=119

It shouldn't be in Christian Fellowship.
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Jun 28 2011 07:40pm
Well, I think the main reason its posted here is so fellow believers can come together and fellowship about it.

If anything, it would only anger the unbeliever more, and cause them to harden their hearts further as pharoah did.
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