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May 5 2011 10:18pm
Quote (Torm1 @ May 5 2011 10:45pm)
How did the thief on the cross get saved? Obviously he wasn't able to do the "work" of water baptism, right?

Was it by grace or by works that he was saved?


Because Jesus said he would be?

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Quote (Torm1 @ May 5 2011 08:45pm)
How did the thief on the cross get saved? Obviously he wasn't able to do the "work" of water baptism, right?

Was it by grace or by works that he was saved?


It is by grace that the thief on the cross was saved.

However, I think a lot of people miss the fact, somehow, that while Jesus was on the Cross, the Old Law was still in effect. It was not until after Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection that the New Law came into effect.

The thief on the cross was saved by grace, but he was under the Old Law and did not need baptism, as many of the baptism advocates would say. You are not saved by works anyhow. Works follows from, and is evidence of, your faith. But no matter how much you work, you cannot merit the grace of God. However, if you have freely received the gift of the grace of God, it is clear in the Bible in the writings of Paul and James that works follow your faith.
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May 7 2011 07:41pm
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ May 2 2011 11:30am)
This was under the old law of Moses. 

The devil believes too....is he saved?

You have to do more than just believe to be saved.


There is a difference between believing and accepting Christ.
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Quote (x]FoRsaKeN[x @ May 7 2011 08:41pm)
There is a difference between believing and accepting Christ.


There is a lot of difference in accepting and repenting too.
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There is  a lot of difference in accepting and repenting too.


This is precisely why I don't believe in this movement in America that says you only have to say a prayer one time and you are saved.
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Quote (Lifesong @ May 10 2011 04:34pm)
This is precisely why I don't believe in this movement in America that says you only have to say a prayer one time and you are saved.


You are correct in your belief.
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May 10 2011 08:00pm
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ May 2 2011 09:30am)
This was under the old law of Moses.

The devil believes too....is he saved?

You have to do more than just believe to be saved.


Because he trys to use it against people to lead us into temptations... Like when he trys to temp Christ..

Sorry TRIED**

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