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Apr 5 2011 01:15pm
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So knowing the Nephilim were angel/human babies, Were the angels that had "sex" with our women fallen angels? Or did God allow them to do it?


The book of Enoch reveals that they actually rebelled against God, and made a pact that they would go down to the earth and sin.
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Apr 5 2011 02:10pm
In your John reference i see you added in the words "the whole way" to make your argument work. The thing is that is not what the bible says. I know you have to try to force contradictions but it doesnt work.
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In your John reference i see you added in the words "the whole way" to make your argument work. The thing is that is not what the bible says. I know you have to try to force contradictions but it doesnt work.


Actually if you have read the Bible you know as well as i do, to us it contradicts itself a whole lot. But im just going to assume that i dont understand it is all. and im not trying to "force contradictions". Just trying to ask questions and find answers instead of just going " Oh a man got every animal in the world in a boat. Okay "
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Apr 5 2011 08:00pm
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So knowing the Nephilim were angel/human babies, Were the angels that had "sex" with our women fallen angels? Or did God allow them to do it?


They're fallen angels.
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Apr 5 2011 08:13pm
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Actually if you have read the Bible you know as well as i do, to us it contradicts itself a whole lot. But im just going to assume that i dont understand it is all. and im not trying to "force contradictions". Just trying to ask questions and find answers instead of just going " Oh a man got every animal in the world in a boat. Okay "


God makes all things possible.
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Apr 5 2011 08:37pm
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God makes all things possible.


Thats not an argument or an explanation.

Heres a question regarding the flood.

The vast majority of fish can only live in either salt water of freshwater. There are very few that can live in both.

If all the saltwater merged with the freshwater there would be no more freshwater and all fish that can only survive in freshwater would have died.

How did freshwater fish survive the flood?

Alternatively if it rained so much freshwater that the freshwater fish could survive then the saltwater fish wouldn't.

How did the saltwater fish survive the flood?


Additionally since god is omnipotent why bother saving the animals at all? Simply make new ones after the flood is done. There is no way anyone can argue every species survived from extreme near extinction without divine intervention anyway so if God is getting involved why not just get involved the right way that doesn't create a ton of questions in the bible that make everyone go "that can't possibly be true."

If the bible said God flooded the earth killed everything except noah and his family then recreated animals no one could argue against that. It's not nearly as good of a story though.
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yes. not every christian takes the bible literally.


ITS THE WORD OF GOD. IF YOU DON'T TAKE IT LITERALLY, HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO TAKE IT. THAT MAKES NOOOOOOOO SENSE.
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Apr 10 2011 12:26pm
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Book of Jubilees, Dead sea scrolls, Book of gilgamesh etc etc etc


where books written by man who thought they should go in the bible.


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yes. not every christian takes the bible literally.


also that is not possible.

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where books written by man who thought they should go in the bible.




also that is not possible.


All of the bible is written by man as it has been rewritten and changed by man.

It's irrelevant now if the original bible was truly the word of God because what the bible is now cannot be.
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Apr 10 2011 07:52pm
If you mean aliens that are outside of earth, then no I don't believe they exist otherwise they would have been mentioned.

And if they do exist, they were insignificant enough to be excluded from the Bible.

Jesus died for men, not animals and aliens.
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