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Apr 1 2011 01:04am
Quote (MCS @ Mar 31 2011 11:00pm)
Theres really no point in trying.  I've had my arguments on this subject ignored.  No one will even try to argue with me.


I argued that when and where you are born should have no impact on if your soul is worthy of heaven or not.  If anyone disagrees with this then God is unjust.  A person has no choice over when or where they're born.  Therefor, if God is just, any given person at any point in history could have been born anywhere at any other point in history and whether or not they go to heaven or hell will remain unchanged.


If this is true then I'm expected to believe that out of every single person who died without ever hearing of a biblical God or Jesus Christ, because they were born in an area and time where that information simply didn't exist, not a single one of them if they were born today would become a Christian and go to heaven.


The people who would have gone to hell would be the extreme majority if not ALL of just about every ancient civilization.


This is simply impossible to believe.

I look forward to no one refuting my points again.


word. makes me not want to believe in god at all. luckily i realize that the problem with organized religion in general is an unwillingness to interpret a just god.
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Apr 1 2011 03:24am
Quote (greiner666992 @ Mar 31 2011 01:48pm)
Gob Bless Japan


this
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Apr 1 2011 09:14am
You have a large bag of crickets that you're going to feed to a lizard.

As you're about to dump the whole bag in as usual, you decide to go outside and free a few of them in your backyard.

The rest get dumped into the lizard tank to be eaten.

Did you have to save them?
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Apr 1 2011 12:48pm
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You have a large bag of crickets that you're going to feed to a lizard.

As you're about to dump the whole bag in as usual, you decide to go outside and free a few of them in your backyard.

The rest get dumped into the lizard tank to be eaten.

Did you have to save them?


we're talking about not just killing or saving but creating.

you find a way to create 100 humans.

you use these humans to feed your tyranasaurs rex.

you decide hey, i'm feeling generous. 5 of you can go free.

somehow time stops as the 95 humans are being torn limb from limb by this carnivore.

their cells also have a remarkable ability to regenerate fast enough to keep them alive.

unfortunately the nerve cells seem to rebuild even faster than the rest which means they feel everything.

Did you have to save those 5 humans?

This post was edited by zeratul87 on Apr 1 2011 12:49pm
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Apr 1 2011 01:30pm
Quote (zeratul87 @ Apr 1 2011 11:48am)
we're talking about not just killing or saving but creating.

you find a way to create 100 humans.

you use these humans to feed your tyranasaurs rex.

you decide hey, i'm feeling generous. 5 of you can go free.

somehow time stops as the 95 humans are being torn limb from limb by this carnivore.

their cells also have a remarkable ability to regenerate fast enough to keep them alive.

unfortunately the nerve cells seem to rebuild even faster than the rest which means they feel everything.

Did you have to save those 5 humans?


Are you referring to hell?

But you don't believe in any of that stuff, so it has no merit.
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Apr 1 2011 01:39pm
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Are you referring to hell?

But you don't believe in any of that stuff, so it has no merit.


not to myself. but to a believer.......
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Apr 1 2011 07:43pm
Quote (Torm1 @ Apr 1 2011 03:14pm)
You have a large bag of crickets that you're going to feed to a lizard.

As you're about to dump the whole bag in as usual, you decide to go outside and free a few of them in your backyard.

The rest get dumped into the lizard tank to be eaten.

Did you have to save them?


Torm I'm staring to think you're the most elaborate and dedicated troll I've ever seen.

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I look forward to no one refuting my points again.


Predicted.

I've never had a Christian try to explain this no matter how many I ask. If I'm wrong PLEASE tell me, is it not your duty to try to save me?
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Apr 1 2011 09:58pm
Jesus is mighty to save.
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Apr 1 2011 10:16pm
Quote (woodlawn11 @ 30 Mar 2011 23:35)
God is with us all you just gotta search him and he will stay with you, it's the most greatest thing that ever happend to me.
But about Japan, i feel sorry for the people who life there but it can happen anywhere if shit pops down where we life we gotta take care with it also.
just put god in our heards guys, if the japs did they should be very happy now where they are, but for the familie and no believers this is hard world like this.



I searched him on google but nothing happened. why you trolling me man.
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Apr 2 2011 01:51am
Quote (Torm1 @ Apr 1 2011 05:28am)
Well, he does regret creating humans.



And it goes on to say more about it if you want to check it out.


if HE regretted making humans then as an omnipotent god i dont see how it would be all that much trouble to just end that problem and make it to where it never happened. therefore i believe he is 100% ok with making us. i remember hearing somewhere that god doesnt make mistakes so if there was no mistake then thered be nothing to regret. winning logic imho.
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