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Mar 10 2011 05:16pm
Quote (Toothfariy @ Mar 10 2011 02:37pm)
i rly hope you're not serious


Why wouldn't I be?
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Mar 10 2011 05:41pm
all I mean is, give it a true shot before denying God's existence. Thats it, no more. Just be sure that you are true to youself that you explored it unbiasedly and thats all I ask. Ill leave it at that
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Mar 10 2011 05:57pm
this is a waste of time.. really.. will end up in no good.. first page allready proof of this..

believe in what you like to believe in..

thats what faith is all about
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Mar 10 2011 08:47pm
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Mar 10 2011 06:20pm)
The claim that science and the Bible do not agree should suprise anyone. What is called "science" is not static. Each generation brings new light; most of the old theories have been exploded by scientists themselves. Yet, each generation of scientists boldly announces that science has disproved the Bible.

But it can as easily be proved that science has disproved itself. With all their dogmatism about the Bible and science, there are few theories that real scientists are willing to take their stand upon and say: “Here is the ultimate truth; no future discoveries will contradict this.” So long as they cannot afford to affirm that they have arrived at ultimate truth, how can they with honor say that science disproves the Bible?

Besides, if the Bible fully agreed with the theories of one age, it would not agree with the theories of the next age. The Bible is unchangeable and cannot keep up agreement with that which constantly changes.

Some of the foremost scientists recognize the limitations of science and are firm believers in the Bible. Preach the Word! No known truth contradicts the Bible.

What scientists are claiming to have disproven the bible?

You seem to be talking about science like it's some sort of religion.


Scientific THEORIES are not static. That's why they're called theories. Scientists like to support and back up their claims with verifiable proof. Once they can do that it ceases to be a theory.


Stephen Hawking has a THEORY that the universe could have been created without a "God" he doesn't claim it as fact or tell people to blindly believe him.

Theories we lack the technology or intelligence to prove but they're not just random shit scientists made up for the hell of it. They're based on observations. Some turn out to be true some are close and some are completely wrong.

An example of a scientific fact would be water is 2 hydrogen atoms bonded to a single oxygen atom. This is not a theory this is a fact. This is not changing or being "exploded" by future scientists.
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Mar 10 2011 08:58pm
Quote (MCS @ Mar 7 2011 01:31am)
It's not hard to state things that can't be disproven.

For example in the center of the earth lives an invisible immortal man that spends all his time playing a pinball machine.


Non-believers don't have to disprove anything.  When you make claims the burden of proof is on you.

How would you like it if I said you killed Mr. Smith and you were sentenced to life in prison because you couldn't disprove it despite 0 evidence being presented against you.

I find it ironic that you use the term "fair trial" in this post.

I mean seriously I can apply this same logic to Harry Potter.  Can you disprove Harry Potter?


Yeeeeaaaah this sums it up.
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Mar 10 2011 10:02pm
Quote (MCS @ 10 Mar 2011 20:47)
An example of a scientific fact would be water is 2 hydrogen atoms bonded to a single oxygen atom. This is not a theory this is a fact. This is not changing or being "exploded" by future scientists.


well we might prove upon that knowledge down the line and realize that perhaps there is more involved than the 2 hydrogen atoms etc

But ur point stands that science is an evolving body of knowledge that is verifiable by logical conjecture. ;)
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Mar 10 2011 10:26pm
Quote (MCS @ Mar 10 2011 09:47pm)
What scientists are claiming to have disproven the bible?

You seem to be talking about science like it's some sort of religion.


Scientific THEORIES are not static. That's why they're called theories. Scientists like to support and back up their claims with verifiable proof. Once they can do that it ceases to be a theory.


Stephen Hawking has a THEORY that the universe could have been created without a "God" he doesn't claim it as fact or tell people to blindly believe him.

Theories we lack the technology or intelligence to prove but they're not just random shit scientists made up for the hell of it. They're based on observations. Some turn out to be true some are close and some are completely wrong.

An example of a scientific fact would be water is 2 hydrogen atoms bonded to a single oxygen atom. This is not a theory this is a fact. This is not changing or being "exploded" by future scientists.


Honestly, it's not worth my time debating anything with you. If I said 1+1=2 you would say it was 3, if I said the first letter in the english alphabet was A you would say it was C, get the idea. It could be very clear but you would find a way to muddy it up.
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Mar 10 2011 10:33pm
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ 10 Mar 2011 22:26)
Honestly, it's not worth my time debating anything with you. If I said 1+1=2 you would say it was 3, if I said the first letter in the english alphabet was A you would say it was C, get the idea. It could be very clear but you would find a way to muddy it up.


he didnt post anything that wasnt logical and factual. I dont think you're understanding science and the scientific method
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Mar 10 2011 10:36pm
Quote (Toothfariy @ Mar 10 2011 11:33pm)
he didnt post anything that wasnt logical and factual. I dont think you're understanding science and the scientific method

After being shut down, he was out of things to say, so he gave himself an out. Mission accomplished.
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Mar 10 2011 10:51pm
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Mar 11 2011 04:26am)
Honestly, it's not worth my time debating anything with you.  If I said 1+1=2 you would say it was 3, if I said the first letter in the english alphabet was A you would say it was C, get the idea.  It could be very clear but you would find a way to muddy it up.


Verifiable facts can't be muddied up. It isn't difficult to "muddy" up your statements because they have nothing supporting them. No proof or supporting arguments.

You can't argue with me because I state facts not opinions and faith based conjecture.


I'm not trying to be mean I simply don't appreciate you attempting to dodge out after making ignorant statements.
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