Quote (WhirlingDervish @ Feb 11 2011 12:39am)

Everything!

John 14:15-20 (King James Version)

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth;whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because Ilive, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.


Love there is agape.

That would be my. Seriously, it looks like "me" in the Hellenistic Greek.

(whom the world cannot receive) - note that

Live/life here = zoe and is separate from bios(physical life).




Romans 9:1 (King James Version) I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

Precedence influences the definition.




If your father murders someone, you aren't legally liable for his transgression. You will likely be bestowed aftereffects anyway.

If we never lost dominion over the material universe we were created from, why did Jesus go through so much trouble to rectify that dominion and tell us about it?

-----

Why did the law mention a sin sacrifice? Why were fig leaves insufficient clothing? Why did God kill an animal to clothe them!? Prevenience?

Galatians 5:22-23 (King James Version)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Quote (Kisssofdeath @ 8 Feb 2011 08:02)

If you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God then according to what he says you must do to be saved you must do the following.

1. You must HEAR the message of the gospel (Romans 10:17).

2. You must BELIEVE that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (John 8:24 and Mark 16:16)

3. You must REPENT of your sins (Luke 13:2 and Acts 17:30).

4. You must CONFESS with your mouth your faith in Christ (Acts 8:37 and Romans 10:9-10).

5. You must be BABTIZED into Christ for the remission of sins (Romans 16:16; Acts 2:38; Romans 6:3-4 and 1 Peter 3:21).

6 Finally, you must live a FAITHFUL Christian life of continuous service in the church of the Lord (Acts2:47; 1 Corinthians 4:2; 15:58; 2 Timothy 2:2; Hebrews 10:23-25 and Revalation 2:10).

Of course if you hear "or read" and don't believe then nothing else matters anyway.

Having taken all this into consideration do you think Christianity has a monopoly on salvation?

Quote (Kamikizzle @ Feb 11 2011 03:50am)

i fail to see your point in either of those verses you cited.
quite frankly i dont even get how theyre correlated to baptism and original sin (respectively) at all

Quote (nate86 @ Feb 11 2011 03:57am)

Quote (Wisco @ 10 Feb 2011 17:53)

What if you believe that the best way to live is to steal, rape, murder, lie, greed, lust, blaspheme, etc?

Quote (Wisco @ Feb 8 2011 09:06am)

Basically the question here is: does Christianity have a monopoly on salvation?

If someone believes that there is a Creator and has righteous deeds how could he possibly be damned for eternity?

Quote (bryce722 @ Feb 11 2011 02:35pm)

christ himself said
john 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
if you proclaim to be a christian then believe the words of christ. he claimed to be the only way to heaven

Quote (Wisco @ Feb 14 2011 01:50am)

where does that leave people who believe in the same God but not Jesus? I mean Jews and Muslims believe in the same Father and I'm sure many of them try their best to live good lives, do righteous things, and repent for their sins.

I don't know it just seems wrong to me that someone who goes through their life believing that God is good and that they should try to emulate him throughout their lives could go to hell for eternity.