if were forced to obey him then what free will is there?

lol its not WRONG if god didnt want it to give us pleasure he would have made it to where it wouldnt give us any.

Its bad according to the bible and its good according to imbecile medical practitioners.

I researched that topic for months and made a lot of tests myself. Excessive masturbation, even if god won't make you suffer for it your body will.
You are just wasting energy, motivation and cause yourself concentration problems through constant cocaine rushes. Try sex without orgasm, that's healthy.

Think your idea further, if he wanted us to do only right things, he wouldn't have included that disastrous apple in the paradise and anything elce that can bring us harm. Hence we could not have responsibility for our actions because we couldn't do anything wrong.
He includes these problematic things so we have the free will to decide what to do and take responsibility. That way our destiny is dependent on us and is not predetermined. Would be boring otherwise.

This post was edited by White_Light on Jan 16 2011 08:18am

A better question would be: "Why am I going to hell?"

too many trolls on jsp, i know it's wrong to say give up fighting the good fight, but you've already given them enough information that they can make their own choice
i know it's a hard thing to stomache the fact that a majority of d2jsp, the internet and the rest of the world will reject God - and it's getting worse and worse as time goes on but know this that God has already seen the future and what is to come

Why isn't there a Buddhism forum?