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Jul 22 2010 06:43pm
isn't the evidence stacked in favor of god's nonexistence?

Quote (rchau @ Jul 15 2010 05:03pm)
you don't go to church in order for your family to be healthy or anything, u go because you believe and want to express your faith.

that doesn't go to say you can't pray for your dad, just because you haven't been to church in a while. when my mom went to surgery those were like the only times i prayed.


praying to god doesnt work bro

you'll find that you get better success rate praying to yourself in the long run because of the boost to self esteem.
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Jul 22 2010 06:47pm
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god has a plan for each of us


why would the omnipotent creator of everything that exists need you in his plans
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Jul 22 2010 10:22pm
Everything that happens
each action you take
are all in god's plans

never lose hope and always be grateful for what you have
(: nd ofc, keep on praying
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Jul 23 2010 06:44am
Quote (McNubbins @ Jul 23 2010 10:43am)
isn't the evidence stacked in favor of god's nonexistence?



praying to god doesnt work bro

you'll find that you get better success rate praying to yourself in the long run because of the boost to self esteem.


It is impossible to either DISPROVE or PROVE the existance of God.
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Jul 23 2010 08:19am
Quote (CPK001 @ Jul 23 2010 07:44am)
It is impossible to either DISPROVE or PROVE the existance of God.


if that is true then it is also impossible to prove or disprove of something's impossibility.

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Jul 25 2010 02:18am
If you think about it with a very open mind and even with a non-religious point of view if you like:

There are things(an all encompassing term for now) that are inconceivable to us as humans. When people tell you that its "all in God's plan" , many people do not accept that. But I just say that whatever it is for better or worse, it is inconceivable to me at this moment. The answer of "why" may never be answered in your life on earth but there is a bible verse (someone please help me with the book and verse) that goes something like: Faith is being certain of what we hope for and sure of what we cannot see.

No matter how hurtful this or any situation is for you in your short-term-mortal life know that God has a plan. Pain and suffering and anxiety is short term. Imagine what Jesus went through his entire life- he experience pain and suffering but knew that these things are short term and that his relationship with God is forever. We as humans cannot conceive why things are the way that they are but just know that this is all short-term. Start thinking in the long-term and I am not talking about 80years.
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Jul 27 2010 08:44am
Quote (McNubbins @ Jul 22 2010 07:43pm)
isn't the evidence stacked in favor of god's nonexistence?


Here's a question that science can't even answer: Where did the universe come from? Why does it exist?

Scientists say the "Big Bang" created the universe. Alright, but where did the conditions for the big bang come from? Did it just come into existence at some point in time? Has it always been? How old is the universe if that's true? Why is there even existence, if it's all pointless with no meaning? Why haven't you killed yourself yet since life is vague and pointless with no meaning and an insignificant blip in the vast space and time of this universe?
You believe in incomplete theories that are supported by little evidence, or by evidence based on incomplete theories.

You need faith to believe in either scenario, so pick one and shut it. Live and let live, quit being a douche.



@Petra/April: Sorry to hear about your troubles. God doesn't punish, so it's not something you've done. Though we may all be judged in the end, he has given us true freedom for this life. And with true freedom comes the hardships and struggles, as well as the highlights and enjoyment. I hope he gets better soon though.

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Jul 28 2010 11:40pm
God is NOT punishing you for anything you've done in your past. Bad things happen to everyone, good or bad. being a Christian does not mean that no troubles will come your way and that your current troubles will disappear.

My mother has serious kidney problems. when i was young in 5th grade she was rushed into the hospital suddenly one day, she had been bleeding blood for a while too and was in serious pain. We were so scared because it was thought that she would die from kidney failure, but my parents are SO faithful in God. even though she thought it might even be the end for her, she knew that she was in God's hands. everything turned out okay in the end after a long stay at the hospital and surgery, she has one kidney left and can only work for a few hours each day now...but what my point is that you really need to pray..with ALL your heart pray, repent and ask for forgiveness for things you think you've done, and ask God to take care of your father. it does not matter that you did not go to church since you were 15, you could've been the worse person on earth your whole entire life but in the end even with one minute left in your life if you really do repent, and I mean really, and ask God to forgive you and save you He surely will, just like the man who died on the cross next to Jesus. No matter what happens, just know that God loves you and your father no matter what, and that none of this is happening because of something bad that anyone did. even though this situation might be unbearable do understand that He has never forsaken you and never will, ever. i'll pray for you, and i hope that you also pray with all your heart together with your dad.

This post was edited by Orioncyc on Jul 28 2010 11:41pm
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Jul 30 2010 02:53am
Quote (foxnews @ Jul 15 2010 03:36pm)
god did not forsake anyone. The thing about life, is that's it's all about choices. Choices have consequences. You don't take care of yourself, you're going to get sick. Don't feel that you had anything to do with your dad's illness. That's just asinine logic and reasoning.

God isn't petty and doesn't punish people like that.

Hope all goes well and your father recovers.


Agree with this post!

I had the same problem you are having....except my mother had gotten cancer. I had gone to a church concert in ohio. I got a call from my father 3 hours away. Told me my mother was in the hospital and he didnt know how long she had to live. Soo the church drove me for 3 hours to the hospital in the middle of the night. I got there and watched my mother for over a week suffer in pain and agony, while she couldnt even say any words cause she was so drugged up on liquid morphine. After she had died, I didnt even have a feeling that she died. the continue presence of people around the house only dulled my senses even more. I thought it was all a party and we never got that much attention. It never dawned on me until noone was there that she was never ever going to be there by my side. All the things she would miss, all the things she would see, and all help she could give. She was a guide and a light to my soul. I loved her so much.
After it was all said and done...I felt the same way you feel, I felt like God abandoned me, I felt alone and nothing was going to ever fill the void. But I am here to tell you. Its not over. God has the last word and we all need to understand that. In time I realliized God wasnt at fault and It was just her time to go....and the funny thing is How he works. I would not let the world in At All! I had a christian girlfriend after my mother had died and she broke into me, she allowed me to open up what had happend. She filled the void. God sent her into my life to fill the void where the Love was lost. I am grateful I have my God, I love him with all my heart and I really love how he loves me. He is my god and I am his forever.


BY THE WAY...IF U EVER NEED HELP COPING WITH PROBLEMS...JUST SEND ME A PM...I AM HERE, I CAN UNDERSTAND. I WILL NOT TURN AWAY FROM YOU.

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Jul 30 2010 04:43am
Well i am not that into christianity and stuff, but as i understand it:

God is forgiving.
You go be a better person. That does not mean going into church, that means being honest and loving. That means expecting and seeing good things in life and appreciating the things that you have, even if that is only your plans for the future.

Stop negative thinking, start positive thinking. Think about how things should become and not how bad they are.
THAT is praying.

Pray for things you want, not for those you dont want.

But that means you must have a strong mind, because you need to know what you want.

If you dont WANT YOUR FATHER TO DIE, then dont think that...

Pray for the good things, the things you want instead and shift your thinking to that level.
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