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Keeping in mind that Subjective Reality can only take you so far:

One day, I came upon a man urinating in a bus station. When I confronted him about his action, he turned to me, without stopping, and said:
"Keep in mind that since the universe is in constant flux, nothing that occurs one moment has any relevance to anything else. Everything you believe, feel or think is based on the false assumption that truth exists. Thus, you are free to do any action which brings you pleasure. That humanity feels constrained by morals is one of the funniest jokes I've ever heard."
So I beat the shit out of him and took his wallet.

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Keeping in mind that Subjective Reality can only take you so far:

One day, I came upon a man urinating in a bus station. When I confronted him about his action, he turned to me, without stopping, and said:
"Keep in mind that since the universe is in constant flux, nothing that occurs one moment has any relevance to anything else. Everything you believe, feel or think is based on the false assumption that truth exists. Thus, you are free to do any action which brings you pleasure. That humanity feels constrained by morals is one of the funniest jokes I've ever heard."
So I beat the shit out of him and took his wallet.


Just know god's morals are absolute.

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Just know god's morals are absolute.


Maybe yours, but certainly not mine. However, there are some things that are absolute, or at least close enough to absolute that we can treat them as such. One of those things is that no matter how much you philosophically believe all morality to be subjective, that doesn't leave you free to do whatever you want without consequences.
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Maybe yours, but certainly not mine.  However, there are some things that are absolute, or at least close enough to absolute that we can treat them as such.  One of those things is that no matter how much you philosophically believe all morality to be subjective, that doesn't leave you free to do whatever you want without consequences.


Lol. Morals are just a social illusion.

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Lol. Morals are just a social illusion.


Morality exists on some level, and that level absolutely encompasses the practical level wherein "Do unto others" keeps you from catching an ass whippin more often than not.

If you acted in a completely amoral manner, you'd be in prison without a doubt, so don't try to pretend that you're some badass who has trasncended morality.

In fact, that's precisely the message of the above scripture that I quoted. No matter how much you think you can philosophically hand wave morality out of existence, there still exists an objective reality in which you will have to face the consequences of your actions.
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Morality exists on some level, and that level absolutely encompasses the practical level wherein "Do unto others" keeps you from catching an ass whippin more often than not. 

If you acted in a completely amoral manner, you'd be in prison without a doubt, so don't try to pretend that you're some badass who has trasncended morality.

In fact, that's precisely the message of the above scripture that I quoted.  No matter how much you think you can philosophically hand wave morality out of existence, there still exists an objective reality in which you will have to face the consequences of your actions.


It's like the State. It only exists because we believe it should.

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It's like the State. It only exists because we believe it should.


That's a perfect example of what I was saying, because it's clearly a mental construct and yet it also exists in an objective, consequence-filled reality beyond a shadow of a doubt. :)
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That's a perfect example of what I was saying, because it's clearly a mental construct and yet it also exists in an objective, consequence-filled reality beyond a shadow of a doubt.  :)


Yup :)

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Dec 17 2009 12:19pm
Another bit of Scripture I'm sure you'll love:

"You will find that the State is the kind of organization which, though it does big things badly, does small things badly, too."
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Another bit of Scripture I'm sure you'll love:

"You will find that the State is the kind of organization which, though it does big things badly, does small things badly, too."


Where's that from?

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