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Mar 8 2011 01:17am
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Mar 5 2011 03:57pm)
Simply repenting isn't enough for the unsaved.  You must obey all of God's commands.


Its hard to obey all of Gods commands because we still have a flesh, and nobody is perfect.
As long as you have that fight in you and do your best, youll be alright.

Edit: He know's who's is his, and who aren't.
God tell us how to live, not for his benefit, but for ours.

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Mar 8 2011 01:25am
its only hard because you make it hard for your self

and where does the bible say that if you do your best you can go to heaven?

if that was true then everyone would be in heaven because they tried there best to believe and be babtized
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Mar 8 2011 01:26am
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its only hard because you make it hard for your self

and where does the bible say that if you do your best you can go to heaven?

if that was true then everyone would be in heaven because they tried there best to believe and be babtized


not sure but i heard it in a sermon
was very inspirational actually
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Mar 8 2011 01:28am
yes there is alot of wolfs in sheep clothing
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Mar 8 2011 01:30am
very true.
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Mar 11 2011 12:42pm
subdivided churches any descendant dont save from anything :) at least i think so
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Mar 11 2011 01:24pm
No,

It is by faith ALONE that we are saved, not of works.
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Mar 11 2011 04:45pm
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No,

It is by faith ALONE that we are saved, not of works.


Could you give me the book chapter and verse that says we are saved by faith ALONE? Thanks.
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Could you give me the book chapter and verse that says we are saved by faith ALONE?  Thanks.


Here are a few.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

John 6:47 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life."

Acts 16:31 "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Romans 10:9: "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

Romans 11:6: "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work."

Ephesians 1:13-14: "In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory."

Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

1 Timothy 1:16: "However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all long suffering, as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life."


Getting baptized, repenting of your sins, etc are works.
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Here are a few.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

John 6:47 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life."

Acts 16:31 "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Romans 10:9: "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

Romans 11:6: "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work."

Ephesians 1:13-14: "In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory."

Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

1 Timothy 1:16: "However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all long suffering, as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life."


Getting baptized, repenting of your sins, etc are works.


Do you mind if I ask who taught you this?
Could you explain these verses for me? Thanks.

James 2:14-24 (New King James Version)

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit?
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!
20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?
22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?
23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God.
24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
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