Find me ONE verse from the New Testament where we are asked to give worship to Christ with a guitar.. You should know better than me by now

"Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:" - Acts 10:34

"For there is no respect of persons with God." - Romans 2:11

Buddy, I have the blood of Christ cleaning my soul from my sins & He redeemed me from hell.. its on all over.. That is the covenant Christ made "with His own blood".. "I know Whom I have believed"

"For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error." -2nd Peter 2:18

"We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error." - 1st John 4:6

I already did, Colossians 3:16. It tells you to use the Psalms, and the Psalms use instruments, and clearly talk of them in their words. It clearly says psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, that is, three distinct types of worship. Hymns are the most obvious, those are purely vocal, sung, the other two are not purely vocal. Finally, it ends with a metaphor of "singing with grace in your heart" for all three of the above methods of worship. Ie, that they are to come from your heart, for the glory of God. It's not the method, it's the intention.

Even Revelation speaks of instruments in the heavenly realm:
Revelation 5:8 (KJV)
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

Revelation 14:2-3 (KJV)
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

Revelation 15:2-3 (KJV)
2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

Your words are not of God, brother. First you said there is no mention in the Bible, then in the New Testament. You need to seek the Lord in prayer.

Harps != Guitars. Since you will not reason with the scripture theres nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. The rockers dont even use the King James so you have no basis whatsoever to accuse me of preaching heresy- all they do is ungodly crap and people take "pleasure in them that do it" because they dont believe it either.

Electric guitars where invented in the 1930s. Prior to that, the earliest form of a guitar was in the 12th century. By your argument, we cannot worship the Lord in a lighted and temperature controlled building because the Bible doesn't explicitly say we can. Oh, and we certainly can't wear synthetic material for our clothing, since it also doesn't say that we should wear anything other than cotton/wool. And dress shoes, with rubber soles? No, barefoot or sandals, or wait, it doesn't mention that either.

You're grasping at straws, and not speaking the Truth on this matter, nor is it in your heart. You have been publicly refuted three times now, and are speaking blasphemy and heresy. You need to step away in prayer, and come back in a few days before replying again.

Posting in Njaguar thread - I am not worthy
E: Don't argue with Njaguar raieman!

This post was edited by Unbornsav on Feb 5 2014 03:48am

Can't decide of raieman is being a troll...or is just very misinformed???



Like this right here..."one verse from the New Testament..." He says this like the Old Testament is irrelevant or something.

But if we look at:

2 Timothy 3:16
King James Version (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Let's use our heads and some logic for a moment...Was there a "New Testament" when Paul wrote this to Timothy? No...So I wonder, what scripture could Paul be talking about?

Answer: The Old Testament. What is in the OT? The Psalms...So how about this for you:

Psalm 150

King James Version (KJV)

150 Praise ye the Lord. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.

2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.

3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.

4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him withstringed instruments and organs.

5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.

6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the Lord. Praise ye the Lord.

See the bold section.

Guitar is a stringed instrument. So is a piano. So is a harp.

How about:

Psalm 149:1
King James Version (KJV)
149 Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.

A new song, eh? I'm pretty sure "Rock"-style music with its focus on Jesus Christ counts as a new song.

Oh and let's just give you one more because, why not?

Colossians 3:23-24
King James Version (KJV)
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.

See, in everything we do in life we ought to do those things as if we were doing them on our Lord's behalf.
So these musicians that play this Contemporary/Christian Rock music are doing it as unto the Lord, and yet raieman calls them Satan worshipers???

Come now raieman, you should know better than that...

Anyways /end rant. I'm going to bed.

TL:DR-> Pslam 150:4 says to praise Him with the stringed instrument. Guitar is a stringed instrument. 'Nuf said.

Edit: To be relevant to the topic at hand: *Puts on hipster glasses* I was listening to nothing but Christian music before K-love suggested it Good luck with your 30-day challenge UnSuN!

This post was edited by gryphenprey on Feb 5 2014 04:56am

Although I do appreciate the input,
Can we try to keep this thread focused around the 30-day challenge

Ty


Agree 100% with njag though

No Thanks but good luck!

I never said I couldn't praise God with my heart. All I said was it's nice to listen to those radio stations while I am driving in my car and that it allows me to focus on God and not things of this world. Who judges people on nothing but lies and accusations? Only God will judge, so why are you?

James Chapter 4
11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of [his] brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

This post was edited by 2Legit2Quit)aS( on Feb 12 2014 11:43pm

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." - John 7:24

"Abstain from all appearance of evil." - 1st Thessalonian 5:22

"Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." - James 4:4

"29 being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." - Romans 1

^^Psalms are written to be sung from the heart to God & to praise Christ- they are SCRIPTURE, not music.

If you want to "focus on God" then youll have to listen to His words - but since you dont even believe the King James, you aint no brother.. so dont bother.