You say the scripture of Romans is not enough, so theres no reason for you to include them in your list- unless youre trying to corrupt them by mixing scripture than are unrelated.

"There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God." -Romans 3:11 says youre wrong,

You said the King James isnt the Bible- so theres no word of God and youre wrong,

Judas was "one of the twelve" disciples and went to hell - Acts 1:25 says youre wrong,

Every man sinned & discipleship wont save- so the cross is "made of none effect" and youre wrong,

Jesus did all the work for salvation at Calvary & God only asks us to "believe on Him Whom He hath sent"- Romans 10:10 says youre wrong,

Repentance is simply a change of mind by acknowledging our sin to believe the gospel of Christ & NOTHING ELSE- Mark 1:15 says youre wrong,

Salvation is received by faith in Christ's blood from the cross which regenerates the believing sinner with the Holy Spirit- Romans 3:25 says youre wrong,

The saint of God is preserved in Christ & sealed by the Holy Spirit "unto the day of redemption" & not by cult membership- 1st Corinthians 1:8 says youre wrong,

Jesus Christ cant be made Lord, Jesus Christ already is God Almighty equal to the Lord God the Father & all we need for salvation is to believe His gospel by trusting His blood to takeaway our sins- Colossians 1:20 says your wrong.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." - Matthew 7:21-23 condemns you. We need God's righteousness to be saved from our sins- if youre not trusting Christ's blood to take away your sins youll die in them.

Youre wrong on all the line, down & down and down. Let Jesus be right. Listen to Him in the scriptures. Let the Holy Spirit fix your mind up with the King James. Dont call God a liar and damn yourself as the easy-believing Lordship salvation fools do.

Wheres the scripture for that quote of yours..

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." - 1st Corinthians 1:18

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;" - Romans 1:18

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" - 2nd Thessalonians 2:10-11

"Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?" - Hebrews 10:29

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. - 2nd Peter 2:1
^^You didnt mention the blood of Christ, you just will not give a fuq about Him.. so quit on me and start praying for yourself instead.

You've twisted everything I said and you take almost every verse you use out of context.

I never said the King James wasn't the Bible, I said it isn't the only version of the Bible that is legitimate.
I never said Judas went to heaven. By the way, Jesus had more than twelve disciples, he just had 12 who were to become apostles.
I could go on, but everything you say is so ridiculous and off the mark that I can't help feeling like I'm being trolled here.

Catholic

This post was edited by Unbornsav on Feb 5 2014 03:47am

Well you said the NIV was the word of God, thus the two must be equal- but we know that is a lie when the underlying manuscript is NOT the same as the King James'.
Judas repented or forsook his sins yet never trusted Christ as Savior thru faith in His blood from the cross- thus never changed his mind concerning hell & Christ.
You didnt get anywhere since the scripture already destroyed the manure you spewed out- you will not accept the doctrine of Christ & you couldnt possibly since its corrupted by the NIV.

not enough what Paul told you about having respect for people's opinions?
I think you should put into practice the true meaning of Christianity:
humility, indulgence, tolerance.

every person has the right time for the awakening of knowledge.

use your knowledge for practicing the true law of Christ, LAW OF LOVE.

"That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;"- Ephesians 4:14
^^The Bible doesnt give authority to men to preach their opinions. Either you will agree with the word of God and preach its doctrine or you will preach your own deceitful philosophy.

Christianity is NOT a Bible word, it doesnt save any body- neither does any religion, which is of man & antichrist..
^^God doesnt tolerate anything contrary to His word and He will judge man accordingly to the scripture. He told us to believe the gospel of His Son, not religion.

"Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth." -Proverbs 27:1

"He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy." - Proverbs 29:1

No, time is not guaranteed to anybody. If we dont believe the word of God today, then neither will we tomorrow. The only that occurs over time is the hardening of the heart or mind to the point of disbelief.

"If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha." - 1st Corinthians 16:22

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him." - 1st John 2:15

Love is the sinful lust of the world. Jesus said to win souls to Him- so why dont you reach the lost & damned world to Christ, if yours is even His'?

Judas didn't repent, he felt bad for himself and then killed himself.

To repent means to change your mind, not feel bad.


Also, I don't read the NIV much, lately I've been reading the NASB.
I used to read the New King James, and I've read a good chunk of the old KJV.
It's all the same, except the KJV is written in a way that is hard to understand for those normal people who use modern English.

Also, was there no such thing as Christianity before the KJV was printed? Because about 1600 years passed between the death and resurrection of Christ and the printing of the King James Version.
How do people who don't speak English learn the gospel? Do they have to learn English to become Christians? English didn't even begin to become a language until the 11th century.

Here's some information about the King James Version that you will doubtless cast aside as heresy and blasphemy, since you care more about defending and promoting the King James Version than actually following the teachings of Christ.

The King James Version

The first English language version of the full Bible was John Wycliffe's translation of the Vulgate in 1384. Several other English versions followed, and the beloved King James Version (KJV) was published in 1611. The King James Version, itself, has been updated several times: in 1629, 1638, 1762, and 1769.

Is the KJV the Best Version?
Some people believe the KJV is the most accurate or only authentic version of the Bible. Some believe the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts the KJV translators worked from were faithfully preserved by God or are the most accurate for some other reason. Others say the translators of all later versions were biased or incompetent in one way or another. Still others say the KJV is a literal and accurate translation while later versions were rewritten to suit the biases of the publishers. However, the vast majority of Bible scholars and Christians reject all these objections as being based on faulty facts and reasoning, and they do not consider the KJV to be more accurate or more sacred than other translations.

Disadvantages
The team of 47 scholars who translated the KJV did an excellent job. However, the English language has changed a lot in the nearly 400 years since it was published. Many KJV words and phrases, such as Lord of hosts, sabaoth, emerods and concupiscence, would not be meaningful to most people today. Worse, many other KJV words, such as charity, trespass, profit, cousin, and remission, have different primary meanings today than they did in 1611 and could mislead the reader. As a result, many English-speaking people find the KJV is quite difficult to read and understand.

Modern Bible Versions
Recent developments in archaeology, scientific dating methods and Biblical scholarship have made possible a number of modern, more accurate English translations of the scriptures. These newer versions are translated from the oldest and best ancient Hebrew and Greek manuscripts, rather than from the King James version or the Latin Vulgate.

Advantages of Modern Translations
Although the newer translations are believed to be more accurate than the KJV, the differences are minor. No significant changes of belief or interpretation would result from the many minor corrections. The main advantage of the modern translations is that they are written in modern English so the reader will not be mystified or misled by the archaic English of the KJV. The mainstream modern Bible versions have been translated by teams of devout Bible scholars who have prayerfully done their very best to convey the true meaning of the ancient Hebrew and Greek manuscripts to the modern reader. These modern translations have been adopted by many churches, both Protestant and Catholic, for use in worship.

Omitted Verses
It is often pointed out that modern translations omit a few of the verses found in the KJV, and this is sometimes believed to be an attempt to distort the Bible's teachings. However, the reason is that certain verses are not found in the oldest and best Bible manuscripts. Thus, they are omitted to accurately preserve the original Bible text. (The chapter and verse numbers were added to the Bible in the Middle Ages; they were not part of the original Bible manuscripts. Thus, an omitted verse does not mean that something was omitted from the original texts.)
Some of these extra verses were added to certain manuscript copies as margin notes or as prayers for use in public worship. Those manuscripts were then copied and recopied without making it clear that the extra verses were later additions. The most famous example is the doxology, "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen." that the KJV adds to the Lord's Prayer in Matthew 6:13. That phrase is not found in any of the oldest manuscripts of Matthew.

This post was edited by DiS505 on Feb 7 2014 09:59pm

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Vouch! Amen