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Jan 16 2014 05:57pm
Quote (Arnage @ Jan 16 2014 07:44am)
The only difference between a cross like this and a plain wooden cross is the price, I want something that will last a lifetime. Should it be wooden or gold, it is still a crucifix, you're going to wear it as a pendant and they have exactly the same meanings. My god which kind of part of Christianity are you from to consider a baptismal cross as idolatry?


No its not, because Jesus is no longer on the cross. The crucifix is a Satanic emblem, the cross is only used for display in remembrance of Golgotha (or Calvary).

"For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain." Psalms 139:20.

You curse God's name and you call on Christianity & Baptism to save your soul.. You might as well worship a rock or some crap.

"For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him." Luke 20:38.

Christ was crucified and is RISEN FROM THE DEAD. To worship a crucifix is saying otherwise..

"And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins." - 1 Corinthians 15:17.

I dont have Christianity, its accursed. I only believe the Bible- it says we must be saved by believing the gospel of Christ, not by playing church or by baptism.
^^Thats a complete mess youre dealing with, dont play with your soul in the game of religion. Getting some kid baptized will ruin his hope of salvation by forfeiting the the gospel of the Bible.
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Jan 16 2014 08:07pm
Acts 2:38, Romans 6:3-4... The baptism is clearly defined in the Bible, those to whom it is intended, and what it achieves.

And what the hell is the gospel of the Bible? Don't call my beliefs idolatry, you're trying to explain to a Russian orthodox that the negro spirituals legacy is better for his godson. If you don't have any advice where I can get a cross like this, get out of this topic.
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Jan 16 2014 09:44pm
Get the vid I sent you. Youve got the wrong dispensation, Baptism was for the JEWISH DISCIPLES when the gospel of the kingdom was preached (see John & the baptism of repentance).
The dispensation changed from the Law to Christ's grace in Acts 7 (from the stoning of Stephen, by the conversion of Saul of Tarsus). Baptism or discipleship cannot save your soul. You need Christ's righteousness with faith in His blood.

I meant gospel from the SCRIPTURE, not that of your Russian gulag camp. Your beliefs are opposed to that of the Bible, you made your own god of water baptism.

1 Corinthians 15
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
"15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"
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Jan 16 2014 10:41pm
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Get the vid I sent you. Youve got the wrong dispensation, Baptism was for the JEWISH DISCIPLES when the gospel of the kingdom was preached (see John & the baptism of repentance).
The dispensation changed from the Law to Christ's grace in Acts 7 (from the stoning of Stephen, by the conversion of Saul of Tarsus). Baptism or discipleship cannot save your soul. You need Christ's righteousness with faith in His blood.

I meant gospel from the SCRIPTURE, not that of your Russian gulag camp. Your beliefs are opposed to that of the Bible, you made your own god of water baptism.

1 Corinthians 15
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
"15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"


Try to teach that to the 2.1 billion Christians in the world, most of which are certainly baptised.
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Jan 16 2014 11:13pm
Quote (Arnage @ Jan 16 2014 11:41pm)
Try to teach that to the 2.1 billion Christians in the world, most of which are certainly baptised.


I cannot teach you what YOU CANNOT RECEIVE.The problem you have is because YOU DID NOT YET BELIEVE WHAT GOD TOLD YOU ABOUT CHRIST IN THE BIBLE..
^^Do you believe on Jesus- Who died for our sins by shedding His blood on the cross, and Whom God had raised from the dead? If not ..

"In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"2 Thessalonians 1:8

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Corinthians 2:14

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." Romans 1:16

"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:14

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21

"And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:40

"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:" John 3:14
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Jan 17 2014 09:43am
Quote (raieman @ Jan 17 2014 05:13am)
I cannot teach you what YOU CANNOT RECEIVE.The problem you have is because YOU DID NOT YET BELIEVE WHAT GOD TOLD YOU ABOUT CHRIST IN THE BIBLE..
^^Do you believe on Jesus- Who died for our sins by shedding His blood on the cross, and Whom God had raised from the dead? If not ..

"In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"2 Thessalonians 1:8

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." 1 Corinthians 2:14

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." Romans 1:16

"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:14

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21

"And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:40

"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:" John 3:14


I don't understand how you are trying to interpret the Bible. But I also don't understand what you are trying to tell me here.
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Jan 17 2014 11:43am
do not be confused by raieman, after i've seen some more posts of him --> I am pretty sure he has the devil inside that's why he tries to confuse everybody

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Jan 17 2014 04:54pm
Quote (Arnage @ Jan 17 2014 10:43am)
I don't understand how you are trying to interpret the Bible. But I also don't understand what you are trying to tell me here.


I dont interpret the Bible, I quote gospel verses. If you dont understand them its because you havent yet believed on Christ as your Savior.

"He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son." 1 John 5:10

If you cant understand what the Bible talks about, then you are LOST in your sins and you need to rely on HIM to save your soul from HELL through faith in His shed BLOOD from the cross.

"But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God." 1 Corinthians 2:10

"For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." 1 Corinthians 12:13

"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." Romans 8:9
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Jan 17 2014 05:03pm
Quote (the_rest @ Jan 17 2014 12:43pm)
do not be confused by raieman, after i've seen some more posts of him --> I am pretty sure he has the devil inside that's why he tries to confuse everybody


No, the Bible confuses you cuz youre not saved. You hate the preaching of the word cuz you hate Christ Jesus..

"He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me." Luke 10:16

Youve called Him a devil and made God a liar..

"And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils." Mark 3:22

Youre an heretic because you preach a dead & fake Jesus that aint the Christ.

"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him." 2 Corinthians 11:4
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Jan 17 2014 06:44pm
...I most certainly will not get involved in this discussion other than to say that this is a forum for fellowship and arguing in front of the unsaved is a very serious error .
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