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Quote (Mr_YumyumsII @ Jan 28 2013 07:36pm)
See the thing is I eat as natural as I can..honestly I avoid cold med's even asprin..its man made. bad news bears for the human body. I strongly believe in herbal medicine. Everything man needs is on this world and given to us. My tonic for a cold is Ginger root, honey,  ceyene pepper, and clove...Works great! lol. But still...I am against strong pain killers for much so though. Its horrible for the body and mind. and very very addictive.


Yeah. We were designed to eat the fruits and plants and that's why people who eat natrual things are healthier usually. Man made food doesn't come close the stuff God made lol.

Off topic a little, but more proof of natural ways of living instead of chemical is the movie "A world without cancer". (Inb4I'mbannedonforumsbytheFDA :rofl: )


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undoubtedly part of nature.
the question is: brings the health benefits?
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undoubtedly part of nature.
the question is: brings the health benefits?


Like I said everything man needs the sovereign ochestrator has given us. For healing,food etc. Its a plant that is actually part of the Herb family. Despite its..err umm other effects. It has been medically recognized and respected for many things. Along as it making great fabric...even are first American flag was made from it because how strong of a fabric it is...The...shunning of it and hate against it is more or less years upon years upon years of propaganda....like the cold war..thats propaganda at is finest. But, I'm so struggling to seek a way to go against it as a Christian. Yeah it alter's your mind...but is that alter negative?!?....
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Hemp (from Old English hænep) is a commonly used term for varieties of the Cannabis plant and its products, which include fiber, oil, and seed. In many countries regulatory limits for concentrations of psychoactive drug compounds (THC) in hemp encourages the use of strains of the plant which are bred for low tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content or otherwise have the THC removed.[citation needed] Hemp is refined into products like hemp seed foods, hemp oil, wax, resin, rope, cloth, pulp, and fuel

It has many beneficial uses that are not related to its use as a mind altering drug.
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Like I said everything man needs the sovereign ochestrator has given us. For healing,food etc. Its a plant that is actually part of the Herb family. Despite its..err umm other effects. It has been medically recognized and respected for many things. Along as it making great fabric...even are first American flag was made from it because how strong of a fabric it is...The...shunning of it and hate against it is more or less years upon years upon years of propaganda....like the cold war..thats propaganda at is finest. But, I'm so struggling to seek a way to go against it as a Christian. Yeah it alter's your mind...but is that alter negative?!?....

I assume that most Christian's would say that using it to alter your state of mind is a sin. I personally do not believe that it should be considered that way though. I don't know exactly how you can go against it as a Christian though. Many Christian's interpret the Bible differently though, and I would guess it all comes down to your personal interpretation of the Bible and what it has to say.

You might find this article interesting. http://www.relevantmagazine.com/current/nation/should-christians-smoke-pot-or-not
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so going to try to explain this the best i can, not a good explainer :P

god put all kinds of things for us to use and control, he did not tell us how to control it, but us as human and curiosity gets us so we try things.
thats where we get wine, and alcohol which even in jesus's time wasnt bad just he point of being drunken.
with that being said i think myself its not bad for making things out of, but when we use the THC that is in it itself is where we get too far and thats where the sin starts

thats my 2 cents :P
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Like I said everything man needs the sovereign ochestrator has given us. For healing,food etc. Its a plant that is actually part of the Herb family. Despite its..err umm other effects. It has been medically recognized and respected for many things. Along as it making great fabric...even are first American flag was made from it because how strong of a fabric it is...The...shunning of it and hate against it is more or less years upon years upon years of propaganda....like the cold war..thats propaganda at is finest. But, I'm so struggling to seek a way to go against it as a Christian. Yeah it alter's your mind...but is that alter negative?!?....


It is a substance he has given us for certain things. Just like they made wine from grapes. Wine was not a bad thing, but getting drunk and altering the state of your mind from it is. The plant itself is not a bad substance as it has many uses to it. But using it to alter the state of your mind is considered a sin.

By what you are saying, taking Shrooms would not be a sin either. Since it is a natural thing that God put on the earth. It occurs naturally without any man made chemical reactants to it.

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It is a substance he has given us for certain things. Just like they made wine from grapes. Wine was not a bad thing, but getting drunk and altering the state of your mind from it is. The plant itself is not a bad substance as it has many uses to it. But using it to alter the state of your mind is considered a sin.

By what you are saying, taking Shrooms would not be a sin either. Since it is a natural thing that God put on the earth. It occurs naturally without any man made chemical reactants to it.


Agreed 100%.
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Quote (Gold_Llama @ Jan 28 2013 03:10pm)
Well, we should always be in control of our bodies at all times. Smoking removes that control and I don't believe Jesus would want us doing such things. Smoking up a joint (or any smoking) isn't something Christians should be engaging in.

If it is used in "tribal practises", than they are probably using it for spirits and that is something to stay away from. None of those spirits are good. If it has uses in materials and products that don't involve getting high, than use it for those things. God made plants, but that doesn't mean he made them to get high off of.


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