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Jul 5 2012 11:16pm
The eye of the needle was an entrance into Jerusalem. It was the only entrance open at night for safety. Because of its height, camels has to remove items from their back and basically crawl to get in. The scripture is a symbol. It refers to the need to leave riches behind when seekin to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
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Jul 12 2012 07:25am
yes it still holds true.

any one telling you other wise really arent trying to convince you they're trying to convince them selfs.

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Jul 16 2012 09:38am
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"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Just wondering how people feel about this, still applicable today? If not, why?

Link relating to the Vatican's assets -> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061201175736AAx89Vt

So... is the pope going to heaven? I know a lot of money is donated to various charities, but I'm not convinced that that is where 100% of the money goes. Thoughts?


Being rich in the Bible especially in this verses doesnt refer to money and Jesus using the camel as exemple is full of meaning and it is also a very good thing to understand the historic explanation here.

The eye of the needle in Jesus time is not what we think. there is a gate in Jerusalem called the "eye of the needle" through which a camel could not pass unless it stooped and first had all its baggage first removed. After dark, when the main gates were shut, travellers or merchants would have to use this smaller gate, through which the camel could only enter unencumbered and crawling on its knees.. We are rich with our knowledge, rich with all material possession, rich with everything that belong on earth, rich that I dont need anyone in life, I can do everything by myself.. name it... Like the camel, Jesus invite us to remove all of our wealth and walk to him on our knees. Being on your knee = being humble. It is a picture of a repentant..

This beautiful verse in the Bible talk to everyones including the poor people in money. I can be a homeless living in the street with no money in my pocket but at the same time I am in some way rich with my thoughts that I can saved myself with my will only, that I dont need anyone.. We cannot pass through the eye of the needle without stooped on our knee and walk humbly to God.
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Jul 16 2012 02:49pm
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Being rich in the Bible especially in this verses doesnt refer to money and Jesus using the camel as exemple is full of meaning and it is also a very good thing to understand the historic explanation here.

The eye of the needle in Jesus time is not what we think. there is a gate in Jerusalem called the "eye of the needle" through which a camel could not pass unless it stooped and first had all its baggage first removed. After dark, when the main gates were shut, travellers or merchants would have to use this smaller gate, through which the camel could only enter unencumbered and crawling on its knees.. We are rich with our knowledge, rich with all material possession, rich with everything that belong on earth, rich that I dont need anyone in life, I can do everything by myself.. name it... Like the camel, Jesus invite us to remove all of our wealth and walk to him on our knees. Being on your knee = being humble. It is a picture of a repentant..

This beautiful verse in the Bible talk to everyones including the poor people in money. I can be a homeless living in the street with no money in my pocket but at the same time I am in some way rich with my thoughts that I can saved myself with my will only, that I dont need anyone.. We cannot pass through the eye of the needle without stooped on our knee and walk humbly to God.


I was about to post this :P

Expect, I'm not sure about you but I come boldly unto the throne, I don't come crawling on my knees like a peasant. For the Lord made us kings and queens and gave us all authority.

KJV Hebrews 4:16
"Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."


But the Lord makes you rich and adds no sorrow to it. Just remember being rich isn't a sin, because Jesus came that we may have life and maybe have it more abundantly.

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Jul 16 2012 05:39pm
In order words, that parable wants to say that human cannot enter the kingdom of heaven by his own will. Even more, its recommend to remove our baggage so we allowed God to take the whole place in our heart. we've been made for one thing and its to recieve and share the Glory of God
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Jul 19 2012 12:59am
I don't know about all the metaphors people think the bible means, I and many I know in fact think most people make up and believe metaphors of the Bible so they don't have to take on the responsibility they Bible asks.

And like, I believe in Jesus as the son of God but I don't feel worthy to call my self a Christian yet so I don't feel like I should have any say in this matter but... how does a Christian who can get into heaven even become rich in the first place? Like, my thought is that if you had anything more than what's needed to survive (Like I make $600 a month and I try to give what little I can to help others in need) then you should give to those less fortunate... If you become rich, doesn't that mean you are not giving to people who have less than you and that you're putting more value and effort in money than you are in Christian ethics?? Like, why the fuck is "money" even brought up in Christianity in the first place?
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