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Jun 28 2012 06:39pm
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Also in response to this quote, there are religious beliefs that are getting in the way of me being submerged in the love of Christ.

For example Protestantism vs Catholicism. Confession in prayer vs Confession to a priest.

The catholic view of confession to a priest makes me feel like if I have committed a sin, then I cannot go receive the body and blood of Christ unless I confess to a priest first.

It makes me feel guilty, and it makes me sad to think that I do not have a right to receive the body and blood of Christ unless I go through this form of penance.

Talking about penance, what if I actually did go to confession, and the priest tells me to pray the Rosary, and I tell him I do not believe in praying to Mary, only to God? Would he change my penance to only our Fathers?

Do I really have to go to confession every time I sin?

Or if I truly have the conviction to not sin again or at least try very hard not to sin, then can I go back to church and receive the body and blood of Christ?


You should confess your sins no matter how small - whether that confession be in prayer to the Lord himself, or through a priest or servant of God.
To receive the body and blood of Christ, at least in my eyes, is a form of purity and purification, and you should not enter this bond unless you are truly pure and have cleansed yourself through confession - at least this is what I was taught as a child and practiced through my life.
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Jun 29 2012 03:42am
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I have a hard time believing that an all just, merciful, loving God would send someone to burn eternally in fire.

Why can't God just send those souls to a place of purification? No soul has ever sinned, the only person who never sinned was Jesus Christ.

So, at death, our soul is not perfect. That is why we need Jesus Christ to save us.

To me it just doesn't make any sense that if someone is sorry for the sins they committed and admit they need Jesus Christ, that he would still send them to hell for eternity,

separated from their family, separated from God, to be in punishment forever.

I'm not saying it's okay to sin, I'm not saying it's okay to neglect your duties as a christian, I'm just saying that we mess up sometimes because we are human, and sometimes we

mess up a lot, but in the end, doesn't our soul matter the most?

Please don't change any of your beliefs based on my troubles and please forgive me if I have stated any information that is incorrect.

May we all be with Christ.


After that I just skipped over everything you said. That is one of the first things that Atheists say about God and why they don't believe in him.
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Jun 29 2012 12:05pm
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I have a hard time believing that an all just, merciful, loving God would send someone to burn eternally in fire.


remember that God flooded the world before Noah and destroyed Sodoma and Gomora, and maybe more. God is also just, not just mercifull.
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Jun 29 2012 01:14pm
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Why can't God just send those souls to a place of purification?

No soul has ever sinned, the only person who never sinned was Jesus Christ.

So, at death, our soul is not perfect. That is why we need Jesus Christ to save us.

I'm not saying it's okay to sin, I'm not saying it's okay to neglect your duties as a christian, I'm just saying that we mess up sometimes because we are human, and sometimes we
mess up a lot, but in the end, doesn't our soul matter the most?


1. hell is a purification process. if the soul would have no process to be purified or heaven, it would just cease to exist (assuming both would not come in the future for the soul)
2. it is known that things such as killing a man (even for the right reasons) or even seeing one killed will scar a soul for life
3. if your savior was truly a righteous man, never having pride and never acting on hate, then he will make sure every cristian gets into heaven


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People choose to be separate from God.

they do not willingly turn away, they simply choose to not to think before their actions.
thinking about every action of the self is a personality trait that must be worked on

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Jun 29 2012 01:27pm
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they do not willingly turn away, they simply choose to not to think before their actions.
thinking about every action of the self  is a personality trait that must be worked on


I'm not talking about a Christian that sins, I am talking about non-Christians that turned their back on God, either directly or indirectly (parents/ancestry). In todays world, it is most always directly, as the word has been preached to almost the entire world at this point. To not follow Christ is a choice.
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Jun 29 2012 04:18pm
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I'm not talking about a Christian that sins, I am talking about non-Christians that turned their back on God, either directly or indirectly (parents/ancestry). In todays world, it is most always directly, as the word has been preached to almost the entire world at this point. To not follow Christ is a choice.


can someone acheive heaven by finding god and being righteous through a way other than the savior of edom?
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Jun 29 2012 11:48pm
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can someone acheive heaven by finding god and being righteous through a way other than the savior of edom?


No, because no other way but through Jesus can wash away your sins.


John 14:6

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Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
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