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Mar 24 2012 12:53am
Quote (Creations @ Mar 24 2012 02:13am)
Another good add on to this would be to listen to John Piper's sermon called "dealing with the guilt of sexual failure."
its really really good.


Will definitely take a look! Thanks bro! :)

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Sexual repression can lead a person to damage him or herself far more than a slackening of 'character' can. Some times a healthy libido, practiced in moderation, can avoid undue stress that would manifest itself self destructively or worse, otherwise.


I'm about to be at 1 month with no masturbation at ALL. Doing fine, the desire to look at porn is basically gone.
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Sexual repression can lead a person to damage him or herself far more than a slackening of 'character' can. Some times a healthy libido, practiced in moderation, can avoid undue stress that would manifest itself self destructively or worse, otherwise.


Anything can lead a person to damage him or herself. Self control will not lead you to self destruction, but on the contrary, the reverse will.
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Mar 24 2012 07:22am
Silenced_Matrix there is still one place whilst having those sexual desires where nobody can catch you or check your history.

It isn't online. Care to take a guess where?
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Silenced_Matrix there is still one place whilst having those sexual desires where nobody can catch you or check your history.

It isn't online. Care to take a guess where?


That is true, are you talking about imagination? (or magazines? cause technically people can find the magazines but the only person who can check your imagination "history" is God.)
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Mar 24 2012 03:19pm
So you were addicted to internet porn ?
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Mar 24 2012 04:13pm
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So you were addicted to internet porn ?


Internet porn mainly, as well as sex, etc. The blog states everything.
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Mar 25 2012 04:58am
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That is true, are you talking about imagination?  (or magazines? cause technically people can find the magazines but the only person who can check your imagination "history" is God.)


Yes my imagination. The thing is the sky is the limits and you can change it to your preference. Looking up stuff online may bring brief satisfaction but there would always feel like something is missing.

Same goes with magazines.

Nobody can spring you when you are thinking about that stuff. Unfortunately there are always loopholes to be found. It is very hard to fight the urges and with each successful attempt, the next urge will only be even more stronger.
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Yes my imagination. The thing is the sky is the limits and you can change it to your preference. Looking up stuff online may bring brief satisfaction but there would always feel like something is missing.

Same goes with magazines.

Nobody can spring you when you are thinking about that stuff. Unfortunately there are always loopholes to be found. It is very hard to fight the urges and with each successful attempt, the next urge will only be even more stronger.


Either way, praying, readying your Bible, body slamming your lustful thoughts will still work. (I have to do the same thing when thoughts enter my head). You have to want to quit! But only God can check your imagination, parents can't.
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Mar 26 2012 03:59am
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Anything can lead a person to damage him or herself. Self control will not lead you to self destruction, but on the contrary, the reverse will.


I'm no psychologist, but I trust to the opinion of qualified professionals and doctors from Freud to Kinsey to modern schools of thought.
The big two offenders that get seen in abnormal sexual development and self destructive tendencies are traumatic childhood experience and sexual repression
To put it lightly, its something that the church has ahem, struggled with. And something they should be carefully reevaluating, to help as many people as possible.
Biblically, the important message seems not to be utter abstinence, but to use yourself responsibly- and thats a great message. Be fruitful and multiply. Be not obsessed with sex. But regular, safe and responsible masturbation need not be a sin, that precedent is with Church alone
Genesis 38:9 is frequently quoted, but lets be reasonable- is the offensive action being referred to the 'spilling of the seed', or the 'cheating his brothers wife maliciously'? He wasn't even spilling his seed in the conventional sense anyway. The bible's silent on the issue

To put my own worthless anecdotal evidence to it, we had a kid back in my high school years, big tall strong korean guy who could have been quite popular- but he was fervently christian and strove towards ridiculous paragons of chastity and such. He took it to the point where he was flagellating himself any time he slipped up and gave into temptation, and more disturbingly actually told us about it, in his holier-than-thou. But it was easy to see it drive his stress levels beyond scary, manifesting itself as violent outbursts- he would snap at a feather's touch and try to physically attack people (fortunately, he was big, but I was bigger, on one occasion). He was never able to be there to be a helpful neighbor or good samaritan

Jesus tells us not just to be at peace with our neighbors and our god, but have peace upon our own hearts that he gives us. And repression and traumatizing experiences will trouble a man more than anything- the more we try to pray away the gay, or body slam our lustful thoughts, or punish ourselves- the more they will manifest violently and do more harm. The same pre-sexual revolution era when we dare not even talk about sex, was also a time when a wife could expect a swift belt buckle to the face if she refused, when brothels ran rampant. I need not even delve into the problems the church faces right now. He who is not at peace with himself cannot be at peace with the world- a carnally obsessed mind is death, a spiritual mind is life and peace- and he who is under control of the flesh cannot please god; who is more under control of his thoughts, he who stressfully represses himself to the breaking point, or he who safely and responsibly comes to peace with his body, that he may better focus his time on other things?

No man can master his body by denying it, for the lord gave it to him, and to deny your own body is to deny what is god-given. Live at peace with it, or live in turmoil and strife
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Mar 26 2012 05:32am
Romans 8:13-15
New International Version

13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.”

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