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Feb 17 2012 10:23am
Quote (RewtheBrave @ 17 Feb 2012 08:31)
You could look up the different tenets, but consider seeing if you could visit some different churches in your local area so you can get a feel for what you like best. There's a difference between the different tenets and also how they're practiced in different churches, so sometimes a single church isn't the most accurate representation of a given sect. It's a personal decision. Just find what gives you the most comfortable feeling. I actually don't go to church often because I don't like singing, and I don't like feeling like I'm not participating because I'm not singing. And ofc the churches in my area seem to all involve singing :blush:

I was raised as a Baptist (my father was a Protestant clergyman in the Canadian Air Force), but I became an agnostic at a young age. I only REALLY became religious again in December of 2011 :banana: I'm still not completely identifying myself as solely Christian but I'm a big fan of Christ and I'm familiar with Christianity so that's why I post here. I'm very much into Buddhism as well, so I think I'm just plain split. I have no problem with that because I believe there is one God that connects all the religions anyway. For me, to say I'm a Christian is easy, but I don't want to confuse people. Also, sorry if that offends anyone. All I mean is that I accept nearly every religion into my heart, so long as it genuinely agrees with Christ's message to us :)


hey man, read john 4:16

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Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.


and romans 10:9 i believe?

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That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”


hope it helps Rew, God bless
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John 14:6 pretty much blows that last part in the water :P


I tend to think that if you go to God through any genuine religion, you're pretty much committed to going through Christ. That's because, to me, Christ and God are either the same or Christ was a man who was incredibly spritual and wise; and, additionally, such an identification pervades all religions. There's a book called Living Buddha, Living Christ, and it influenced me a fair amount when I was a bit younger. If you find God through Buddha, I think you also find God through Christ (for example), because the genuine message is basically the same to me. That is, Christ's spirit works in every religion, and that's where my use of 'genuine' comes to the fore. If I don't see that spirit, I don't identify with the religion. I can understand that what I'm saying may sound like a stretch, but it's the way I interpret John 14:6 intuitively. My way of believing is very inclusive ... actually, it comes from a very long search to understand the universe. My search was about following my way through some difficult questions, and what surprised me was that the more I searched, the closer I came to feeling like God is behind all things. To be sure, in December (on the 5th), I feel that I found either a proof of God's existence or at least a very strong argument for it (through physics). Suddenly a lot of ideas came together (some that I had even repressed since childhood) and I came to the light, so to speak. Anyway the result was a deep conviction about how life is precious and how God helps us all along. It seems to me that the best way to represent this way of thinking in the practice of everyday life is to follow Christ. Not just for sake of making your life like what God has put us here to enjoy, but also to satisfy a kind of felt logical demand that we should embrace and become part of an all-pervading spirit. Christ is the prime example of that sort of life and spirit, but I believe that other representations of life and spirit (and even some people) can either reach that level or at least connect with it directly.

In some way, I believe that if you hold a rock, you are holding something that's a part of God. If you hold onto the beliefs of someone like Gandhi, you hold onto some very Christian beliefs. Moreover, in the case of someone like Buddha, I think you're holding onto the very spirit of Christ. That's not meant to sound irreligious. It's just what I believe. Spirit connects everything and of course Christ is the way to God. I just see Christ in Buddha, although I don't identify them 100%. It's just that the same message is there, for the most part. And to me that's the important part :)

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Feb 17 2012 11:19am
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You could look up the different tenets, but consider seeing if you could visit some different churches in your local area so you can get a feel for what you like best. There's a difference between the different tenets and also how they're practiced in different churches, so sometimes a single church isn't the most accurate representation of a given sect. It's a personal decision. Just find what gives you the most comfortable feeling. I actually don't go to church often because I don't like singing, and I don't like feeling like I'm not participating because I'm not singing. And ofc the churches in my area seem to all involve singing :blush:

I was raised as a Baptist (my father was a Protestant clergyman in the Canadian Air Force), but I became an agnostic at a young age. I only REALLY became religious again in December of 2011 :banana: I'm still not completely identifying myself as solely Christian but I'm a big fan of Christ and I'm familiar with Christianity so that's why I post here. I'm very much into Buddhism as well, so I think I'm just plain split. I have no problem with that because I believe there is one God that connects all the religions anyway. For me, to say I'm a Christian is easy, but I don't want to confuse people. Also, sorry if that offends anyone. All I mean is that I accept nearly every religion into my heart, so long as it genuinely agrees with Christ's message to us :)


Are you saying that your dad was a military Padre ?

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Feb 17 2012 11:21am
I go to three different churches.

First Christian Church
First Assembly of God
Cameron Campus Ministries

I really enjoy house churches. :)
Ones that bring all Christians together with a fair, non-hostile discussion.
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Feb 17 2012 11:23am
Rew, you may find some similiar beliefs in buddhism that hold up in the bible, but at the end of the day man.... It's if you believe Christ died for your sins and if you have the holy spirit in you. Not to be rude but Ghandi was a man, not Jesus Christ, and I for me I will never look up to a man's teaching. But I understand where you're coming from, you like what other religions teach and you're starstruck... I will do some praying for you brother, I believe you need to thin out your thoughts on what you believe, you can't get into heaven if you're standing in the middle man, (imo)
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I tend to think that if you go to God through any genuine religion, you're pretty much committed to going through Christ. That's because, to me, Christ and God are either the same or Christ was a man who was incredibly spritual and wise; and, additionally, such an identification pervades all religions. There's a book called Living Buddha, Living Christ, and it influenced me a fair amount when I was a bit younger. If you find God through Buddha, I think you also find God through Christ (for example), because the genuine message is basically the same to me. That is, Christ's spirit works in every religion, and that's where my use of 'genuine' comes to the fore. If I don't see that spirit, I don't identify with the religion. I can understand that what I'm saying may sound like a stretch, but it's the way I interpret John 14:6 intuitively. My way of believing is very inclusive ... actually, it comes from a very long search to understand the universe. My search was about following my way through some difficult questions, and what surprised me was that the more I searched, the closer I came to feeling like God is behind all things. To be sure, in December (on the 5th), I feel that I found either a proof of God's existence or at least a very strong argument for it (through physics). Suddenly a lot of ideas came together (some that I had even repressed since childhood) and I came to the light, so to speak. Anyway the result was a deep conviction about how life is precious and how God helps us all along. It seems to me that the best way to represent this way of thinking in the practice of everyday life is to follow Christ. Not just for sake of making your life like what God has put us here to enjoy, but also to satisfy a kind of felt logical demand that we should embrace and become part of an all-pervading spirit. Christ is the prime example of that sort of life and spirit, but I believe that other representations of life and spirit (and even some people) can either reach that level or at least connect with it directly.

In some way, I believe that if you hold a rock, you are holding something that's a part of God. If you hold onto the beliefs of someone like Gandhi, you hold onto some very Christian beliefs. Moreover, in the case of someone like Buddha, I think you're holding onto the very spirit of Christ. That's not meant to sound irreligious. It's just what I believe. Spirit connects everything and of course Christ is the way to God. I just see Christ in Buddha, although I don't identify them 100%. It's just that the same message is there, for the most part. And to me that's the important part :)



Totally aggreed with this.

Also in Luke 9:50 Jesus said:
"Do not stop him," Jesus said, "for whoever is not against you is for you."

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Quote (nekrotic @ 17 Feb 2012 12:19)
Are you saying that your dad was a military Padre ?


Yes.

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Totally aggreed with this.

Also in Luke 9:50  Jesus said:
"Do not stop him," Jesus said, "for whoever is not against you is for you."


ty m8, this is a passage I liked when I was very young. Even when I wasn't 100% religious I would pray for my opponents in sports. I know it sounds counter-productive, but I always wanted the best competition and I also wanted to avoid hurting them too much.

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Rew, you may find some similiar beliefs in buddhism that hold up in the bible, but at the end of the day man.... It's if you believe Christ died for your sins and if you have the holy spirit in you.  Not to be rude but Ghandi was a man, not Jesus Christ, and I for me I will never look up to a man's teaching.  But I understand where you're coming from, you like what other religions teach and you're starstruck... I will do some praying for you brother, I believe you need to thin out your thoughts on what you believe, you can't get into heaven if you're standing in the middle man, (imo)


I agree that Gandhi was just a man, but he was a great man :) I don't think he literally was Christ but I think what he believed followed Christ's message very closely, even if he was a Hindu. He was very faithful, and he felt that if he found Truth, he would find God. That was his simple message, and he was very strict in his observances. He was a huge supporter of compassion, and he probably really enjoyed the idea of "turn the other cheek". Men like Gandhi help me see a common spirit in all of the major religions :)
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Feb 17 2012 02:23pm
Quote (Dune1 @ Feb 17 2012 09:22am)
John 14:6 pretty much blows that last part in the water :P


We just did a study on that last night at a young adults group! :)

It was quite the intense discussion afterward.

I suggest you guys check out the new movie "The Gospel of John" its literally word for word, the book of John, acted out. Nothing is added or taken from it. Really cool how they've done it.
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