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Jul 21 2011 10:25am
Quote (Volkor @ Jul 21 2011 02:15am)
It is, for me, useful to prove the things which will lead my way of life. I don't wanna follow something just because someone told me "It's good" or "This is what you must do".

And to be honest, this is even harder with all the awful things linked to the christian history. (and justified by faith and not by proofs)


Did I ever tell you I hate religion?


-> http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=56226219&f=125
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Jul 21 2011 10:38am
Quote (LieToMe @ 21 Jul 2011 00:53)
Do you have dreams? can you prove your dream?
Do you love someone limitless? can you prove to me that you love her/him limitless?
Do you feel respected? can you prove to me that you feel respected?

You can make up questions to about anything you want to argue with.
None-believers tend to do that.

Everything I believe in comes from experience.

Tell me this my friend. Do you ever see a innocent person get killed as guilty because they couldn't get real proofs?
Do you see a guilty person released as free because they found "real proofs"?

If you are trying to solve what to believe by question and logic reasoning, you will get no where.


Just think about people who have never dreamed before, or loved before. These are personal expirences that we all share. Now if we said, god has shown himself to me in a personal expirence; this is vaguely agreed upon by people of faith, but also there are a LOT of people this doesnt happen to, not just athiests but also some people of faith just believe it and never have such an expirence. You cannot expect someone to believe in god when it cannot his basic existance cannot be demonstrated.

and @bold: LOL
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Jul 21 2011 11:59am
If you we're truly a Christian then you would understand that God finds you we're you are and he just hasn't opened the non believers eyes to his wonders. You shouldn't judge we all have our freedom of free will.

I would also like to add Christ asks us to pick up our cross daily and with materialistic world with greedy possessions and sin in our culture, It's hard for a non believer to just give up everything because you can't serve two masters. I found God when I was in need of him the most when the possessions of this world took over my wants and needs then he showed me the light by me simply opening up the word and actually reading it. People will hate what they do not know and what they haven't been shown. We as people in Christs imagine need to just stand firm in our belief and reflect him. Be positive and worry about yourself and your relationship with God then everyone else.

This post was edited by Killermcknight76 on Jul 21 2011 12:04pm
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Jul 21 2011 12:09pm
I would also like to add Religion isn't what the bible calls for or wants, Religion is laws made up by man. Perfect example is Catholics and its sad to say that some christian church's are preaching not from the word but with their man made lessons but really Christianity and what it stands for is a Relationship with Christ. Religion is what you make of it. I can never go to church a day in my life but as long as I admit, believe and confess to god and read his word daily I will go to heaven.
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Jul 21 2011 12:11pm
Quote (Killermcknight76 @ Jul 21 2011 12:59pm)
If you we're truly a Christian then you would understand that God finds you we're you are and he just hasn't opened the non believers eyes to his wonders. You shouldn't judge we all have our freedom of free will.

I would also like to add Christ asks us to pick up our cross daily and with materialistic world with greedy possessions and sin in our culture, It's hard for a non believer to just give up everything because you can't serve two masters. I found God when I was in need of him the most when the possessions of this world took over my wants and needs then he showed me the light by me simply opening up the word and actually reading it. People will hate what they do not know and what they haven't been shown. We as people in Christs imagine need to just stand firm in our belief and reflect him. Be positive and worry about yourself and your relationship with God then everyone else.


Quote (Toothfariy @ Jul 21 2011 11:38am)
Just think about people who have never dreamed before, or loved before. These are personal expirences that we all share. Now if we said, god has shown himself to me in a personal expirence; this is vaguely agreed upon by people of faith, but also there are a LOT of people this doesnt happen to, not just athiests but also some people of faith just believe it and never have such an expirence. You cannot expect someone to believe in god when it cannot his basic existance cannot be demonstrated.

and @bold: LOL


I'm not sure if you two are getting where I am getting at. IF you read my post thoroughly, you would understand that I am with you on everything you two are saying. Please please please, read before you start an argument..
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Jul 21 2011 12:14pm
Quote (Killermcknight76 @ Jul 21 2011 01:09pm)
I would also like to add Religion isn't what the bible calls for or wants, Religion is laws made up by man. Perfect example is Catholics and its sad to say that some christian church's are preaching not from the word but with their man made lessons but really Christianity and what it stands for is a Relationship with Christ. Religion is what you make of it. I can never go to church a day in my life but as long as I admit, believe and confess to god and read his word daily I will go to heaven.


you are killing me, seriously. Read the other post I posted PLEASE.

I hate religion myself.

->http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=56226219&f=125
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Jul 21 2011 12:14pm
Quote (LieToMe @ 21 Jul 2011 14:11)
I'm not sure if you two are getting where I am getting at. IF you read my post thoroughly, you would understand that I am with you on everything you two are saying. Please please please, read before you start an argument..




I'm not trying to argue brother, That wasn't towards you. I just felt like telling that to everyone who was against you.
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Jul 21 2011 12:17pm
Quote (Killermcknight76 @ Jul 21 2011 01:14pm)
I'm not trying to argue brother, That wasn't towards you. I just felt like telling that to everyone who was against you.


When you said 'you' I felt as if you were directing towards me. Thanks for sharing I am completely with you on what the world has made of religion.
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