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Jun 1 2011 03:01am
I think believing in christianity is great. Whilst some groups of non-believers spend their days working, sleeping, fucking and drinking, Christians often spend their days doing good things for the community in which they live, and sometimes even teh world.
Also, prayer is extremely suited for self-reflection, a trait that a lot of the scum of the earth haven't even heard of.
All in all I think religion on a whole is great, as long it's practised in a normal way, and as long as religious people don't piss non-believers off by trying to convert them. If the non-believers are going to hell, then it's not your responsibility to save them.
However, we all know it's a hoax right? I sometimes find it hard to believe how people can be so convinced about "the truth", when it's just written in a silly book.
If you think you've seen god, then you've let yourself get tricked by your mind. Wishfull thinking it's called.
Religion originated in denial of the real truth, which is that all people die. That's fucking scary, I know, but no one's waiting for you at the end, so all you can do is make your earthly hours count.
When religion is over, in a far future, we'll all be laughing and kidding around. "Can't believe we used to believe in that stuff, good times.".
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Jun 1 2011 09:02am
Quote (nate86 @ May 31 2011 10:51pm)
There are lots and lots of people that know that in their present state they are not worthy of heaven's glory, but they can't bring themselves to believe that God would love them enough to forgive them of all of their sins. This is something that greatly saddens me. They try to do good works thinking that they might be able to earn the right to enter heaven. However, love cannot be earned. Love can only be given and received. The love of God is greater than anything we can ever see, feel, touch, or comprehend. He IS love. This is what the good news of the gospel is all about. Put aside your logic, put aside your pride, and look deep down inside yourself. There is nothing you need more than to be loved.


Right on brother :) Everyone should read this, even those who might not currently have a relationship with Christ.

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Religion originated in denial of the real truth, which is that all people die. That's fucking scary, I know, but no one's waiting for you at the end, so all you can do is make your earthly hours count.


To follow Christ is different than "Religion"

"The wages of Sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ."

"Follow Me."-Jesus

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Quote (MegaVovaN @ May 31 2011 11:02pm)
Q: What is christianity?



A: It is the belief that a two-thousand-year-old jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat an apple off a magical tree in a wonderland. 


Q: What is evolution?


A: The exaggerated belief of adaptation that humans and everything on earth evolved from one being. Monkey evolved from a fish. bird evolved from fish. porcupine evolved from fish? pigs evolved from fish? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

point is, Evolution is just an over-exaggeration of adaptation.

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Quote (MegaVovaN @ May 31 2011 08:02pm)
Q: What is christianity?



A: It is the belief that a two-thousand-year-old jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat an apple off a magical tree in a wonderland. 


This objection is an offshoot of question 2 above, only restated: "The Bible is nothing but a collection of unprovable, unjustifiable myths."

Thank you for your input. However, none of us here would accept this post any more than an atheist would accept an over-simplified, albeit ignorant definition of atheism: The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs (and eventually humans).

We must examine the truth claims of each side accurately, not misrepresent them. However, in giving you the benefit of the doubt by rephrasing your objection as I did above, many individuals like you deserve a rational answer from Christians. I will consider this.
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Quote (Joost_nl2 @ Jun 1 2011 02:01am)
I think believing in christianity is great. Whilst some groups of non-believers spend their days working, sleeping, fucking and drinking, Christians often spend their days doing good things for the community in which they live, and sometimes even teh world.
Also, prayer is extremely suited for self-reflection, a trait that a lot of the scum of the earth haven't even heard of.
All in all I think religion on a whole is great, as long it's practised in a normal way, and as long as religious people don't piss non-believers off by trying to convert them. If the non-believers are going to hell, then it's not your responsibility to save them.
However, we all know it's a hoax right? I sometimes find it hard to believe how people can be so convinced about "the truth", when it's just written in a silly book.
If you think you've seen god, then you've let yourself get tricked by your mind. Wishfull thinking it's called.
Religion originated in denial of the real truth, which is that all people die. That's fucking scary, I know, but no one's waiting for you at the end, so all you can do is make your earthly hours count.
When religion is over, in a far future, we'll all be laughing and kidding around. "Can't believe we used to believe in that stuff, good times.".


This objection is similar to another one I wrote that I did not share: "Religion is simply an adaptation of mankind that was once used for evolutionary purposes of survival alone, and therefore cannot hold any truth value. That is, our minds through Natural Selection have somehow made us susceptible to religious beliefs that are completely untrue."

Not only that, but you raise another common objection: "Christian beliefs are unjustifiable because they are simply taken out of a book that is considered holy, when it is in fact nothing but ancient literature."

Two things may be said as a simple response to these objections:
1. These assume that naturalism (that all that exists is the material universe) is true.
2. This commits what is commonly called the "genetic fallacy." The genetic fallacy takes place when you attack a view based on how an individual came to hold that belief. For example, one might say, "You only believe in Democracy because you were born and raised in America." However, this is clearly a logical mistake because it does not take away from the TRUTH of a statement. For example, if you came to believe that the earth was spherical by studying the (now understood to be mistaken) work of the Pythagoreans, that does not undermine the TRUTH of the earth being spherical.
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Jun 1 2011 04:16pm
Ok, I was just trolling with my previous post, not meant to offend anybody, lol. chillax
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Quote (MegaVovaN @ Jun 1 2011 03:16pm)
Ok, I was just trolling with my previous post, not meant to offend anybody, lol. chillax


That's why I thanked you for your input. I just want to know what people think or have heard, independent of if they believe in it themselves. I'm chill. B)
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Quote (Lifesong @ Jun 1 2011 05:46pm)

Thank you for your input. However, none of us here would accept this post any more than an atheist would accept an over-simplified, albeit ignorant definition of atheism: The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs (and eventually humans).


I totally loved this summary of atheism. It's awesome and made me lol. -Great post.
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Religion originated in denial of the real truth, which is that all people die.


The Bible never denies this fact...


"Man's fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other."

"For who knows what is good for a man in life, during the few and meaningless days he passes through like a shadow? Who can tell him what will happen under the sun after he is gone?"

"This is the evil in everything that happens under the sun: The same destiny overtakes all. The hearts of men, moreover, are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterwards they join the dead."

"For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten."

"Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom."

- Ecclesiastes 3:19a, 6:12, 9:3, 5, 10 (niv)


So where does a Christian's hope come from? :)


"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

- Romans 5:8 (niv)

"He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification."

- Romans 4:25 (niv)

"But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the first-fruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive."

- 1 Corinthians 15:20-22 (niv)

"For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."

- Jesus, John 6:38-40 (niv)

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