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May 27 2011 11:23pm
Quote (Lifesong @ 27 May 2011 13:51)
I think we need to distinguish between two different events. The first has to do with WHEN the Rapture takes place. It seems that you agree with me about the second, which is the Great White Throne Judgment spoken of in Revelation 20:11-15. You can read about it here: http://www.gotquestions.org/great-white-throne-judgment.html

I will summarize though, and say that what you believe in is the Great White Throne Judgment, which is exactly what you describe: a time in which, at the end of all things, all people are taken up, stand before God, and are then judged on their eternal destination. This takes place AFTER the Great Tribulation period.

The problem that you seem to have with the rapture is that you are under the impression that people will be Raptured AFTER the Tribulation, which means not all the good would be taken up and all the bad left behind. That's fine! That is actually compatible with the idea of the Rapture! It is called "Post-Tribulation" theology, where the church is raptured AFTER the Great Tribulation, then the Millennium Reign takes place, and then the Great White Throne Judgment. Some people believe in that and there might be some rational grounds for believing that. The other two positions are that the church will be taken up BEFORE the Tribulation ("Pre-Tribulation"), or in the MIDDLE of the Tribulation ("Mid-Tribulation", 3 years after the Middle East Peace Treaty).

In essence, you can hold your view that God will take up the Church after the Great Tribulation perhaps. But what you have to understand is the timeline the Bible gives us. You seem to be confusing the Rapture with the Great White Throne Judgment, which are two different events described in the Bible. I hope this helps!


mmk i think im getting it. thanks for your help ;)

Can you elaborate on the 1000 years? So it goes like this...there is the rapture for everyone who is good (post tribulation) and everyone else is dead. Then everyone is in heaven for 1000 years, then comes the judgement? where we come back to earth and thats when they try and take the holy city but yeah... we know how that goes
Sorry its been awhile since I went to church, but this is stuff is coming back to me, I guess I should read the Bible more huh o.O I read revelation but i really didnt understand it I guess.
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May 28 2011 12:06am
That's a little closer. :)

The order of events is this: The Rapture takes place (in your opinion, Post Tribulation). When the Tribulation is over, the Bible states that there will be a 1000 years of peace on EARTH where Jesus will rule and reign with those who are saved. All the wicked will have perished after the Tribulation. Then God will release Satan and there will be a final rebellion. After that rebellion takes place, Jesus will cast Satan into hell for the rest of eternity, and then the Great White Throne Judgment will take place. Then, an eternity of heaven will ensue in the New Jerusalem, the "New Heaven and New Earth".
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May 28 2011 12:10am
Kind of lines up to the 6th "age" (the 1000 years) as spoken of in all the different cultures of the world.

For example, the mayans say the end of the "5th age" will come in late 2012, when the sun will get "angry" and release solar storms potent enough to get in (Also because we will be going through a magnetic field reversal at the same time) Shields are down.

Then the "6th" (Final) "age" will begin, where Bolon Yokte will reign for a thousand years.

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Kind of lines up to the 6th "age" (the 1000 years) as spoken of in all the different cultures of the world.

For example, the mayans say the end of the "5th age" will come in late 2012, when the sun will get "angry" and release solar storms potent enough to get in (Also because we will be going through a magnetic field reversal at the same time) Shields are down.

Then the "6th" (Final) "age" will begin, where Bolon Yokte will reign for a thousand years.


That post seems pretty off topic to me
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May 29 2011 05:36am
Quote (Torm1 @ May 28 2011 01:10am)
Kind of lines up to the 6th "age" (the 1000 years) as spoken of in all the different cultures of the world.

For example, the mayans say the end of the "5th age" will come in late 2012, when the sun will get "angry" and release solar storms potent enough to get in (Also because we will be going through a magnetic field reversal at the same time) Shields are down.

Then the "6th" (Final) "age" will begin, where Bolon Yokte will reign for a thousand years.


Where do you get this garbage from?
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May 29 2011 12:39pm
Thats just what they say, of course I don't go by other cultures, but Jesus. I just thought I'd mention it because its kind of interesting.
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Quote (Torm1 @ 29 May 2011 11:39)
Thats just what they say, of course I don't go by other cultures, but Jesus. I just thought I'd mention it because its kind of interesting.


ok :)
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