A tower, but it also acts as an example. An example or symbol of man's pride in the self and his technology.

If you look at the entire world today as a modern day tower of babel, you see that we are pretty close to being smitten down.

I see where there is misunderstanding.

You're taking the perspective of man while I feel like I'm taking the perspective of God.

If you look at it in God's perspective, whether if it's the cliff or gradual loss of air, it ultimately leads to death.

But to be honest, either of those example is besides the point of the verse.

Since you seem to be "intellectual," why don't you answer the original question that the person asked?

also dont forget that god is not just one being, so where it says *us* could be all that is god

thats my imo

A gradual loss of air doesn't lead to death it leads to stopping what is causing the loss of air. They're humans not lemmings, survival is the strongest human instinct.

I don't answer the original question because being "intellectual" I have the same question. (the first one, not the 2nd)



I disregard illogical answers and am left with none.



Where does it say this is in the Bible? As far as I know it doesn't.

A far more profound way of humbling them would be to allow them to continue their impossible task until they realized it was impossible and inevitably failed.

Your conclusion makes no sense and as far as I know has no biblical backing but please correct me if it's there.

I asked a close friend of mine and this was his response. (Which admittedly, I was lacking knowledge lol).



Genesis 11:4

Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

The "making a name for ourselves" in Hebrew language indicates that the same word used there equals the word, "God" which was suppose to be meant as an object to be worshiped (Basically they are saying, let us become gods ourselves) So in essence these people were wanting to be immortalized and be worshiped by their descendants and God wasn't going to be idle and let that happen.

The latter part of the "otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth" is going against the divine calling that God commanded to Noah in Genesis 9:1. The reason outside of wanting to make name for themselves was so that they will not be scattered (thus not filling up the earth). Naturally the population increase would force these people to move away further but if this tower (which by the way, when they say that it will reach the heavens, in Hebrew language, it just means that it'll be quite tall) were to be completed, people would try to stay close to their proud establishment and be acknowledge as "gods" (as the previous statement would say).

If you understand the first two part, I guess the whole running out of air portion of the question becomes invalid.

Hope that helps.

So the Bible makes sense as long as don't accept the translation to our language?


Solid plan God. If we all spoke 1 language this wouldn't be an issue. Oops.......

This post was edited by MCS on Apr 6 2011 08:05pm

It is a story where the bible reveals that god works against humanity - It cements the misconception of the general idea; that he is watching over you and wants the best for you.

Also it marks the downfall of the bible since the bible became obsolete the same instant that we realized that different languages did not suddenly spawn as Adam and Eve did (lol, I am going to hell), but they developed over a long period because of different factors like location.

This post was edited by R-Zenk on Apr 8 2011 01:26pm

First of all if the tower of babel did exist, the obviously the tower would have eventually crumbled to the ground without any supernatural opposition. I would probably guess that these people werent the best engineers and that the tower crumbled because of an unstable or weak foundation. In addition they would have inevitably failed, because we know that there is no heaven in the sky. And wouldn't this have applied to the airplane and rocket makers of the early 1900's to get to the sky.

And telekesis or telepathy? are you serious? if this was true we would have had no evolved vocal system.

@ the bolded part, if they were so smart they would have built a telescope not a tower.

Even if humanity had evolved telepathy, we would probably still have vocal cords and the ability to speak. They would be leftover from the species that we had evolved from. However, I wouldn't go so far as to say it was vestigial. When we think, we do so in our native language (at least, I know I do). Because of that, we would still HAVE languages, and with fully functioning vocal cords left over as a product of evolution, we would still be fully able to communicate vocally.

yes, but for some reason i was thinking that he was under the impression everyone of that time and before was using telepathy to communicate even as evolving creatures.