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Mar 7 2011 10:18am
where was that story about animals traits inherited from what the parents were looking at during the conception?



also you logic fail. We can't disprove god, but to make a positive assertion about the bible or christian god means evidence is on you.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 7 2011 10:19am
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Mar 8 2011 09:54am
bullsh!t.

people just need to belive in something , thats why religion was created
to give people hope when theres nothing else to help them.
its all POLITICAL , and different religions BRING IN THE MONEY , its CALLED THE MONEYMAKIN BUSINESS.
you belive it as mutch as u want , read the good book whatever , praise the lord as mutch as u want
but u will never hear an answer . youll know that after youve seen places that are "forgotten" ,where people
die of diseases , murders , abuses , and theres nobody to help them .. not even god.

even if there is a god .. theres only 1 , not many and he is the "creator"
basically a "being" of some sort

based on all ive been taught by teachers .
since i go to a christian school , its manditory to go to
the church and having classes calles " religeouse belifes"


ofcourse people wont actually prove that its a faccade , cuz in some way
it pays the bills ... hehe

this was told to me by my logic teacher.

P.S. - the people who raise theyre children like good little angels
and forbid them to do ALOT of NORMAL stuff , and basically
control theyre lives u are so SAD, i feel sorry for the normal children
who get sucked in to that weirass world.


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Quote (kisser3 @ Mar 8 2011 08:54am)
bullsh!t.

people just need to belive in something , thats why religion was created
to give people hope when theres nothing else to help them.
its all POLITICAL , and different religions BRING IN THE MONEY , its CALLED THE MONEYMAKIN BUSINESS.
you belive it as mutch as u want , read the good book whatever , praise the lord as mutch as u want
but u will never hear an answer . youll know that after youve seen places that are "forgotten" ,where people
die of diseases , murders , abuses , and theres nobody to help them .. not even god.

even if there is a god .. theres only 1 , not many and he is the "creator"
basically a "being"  of some sort

based on all ive been taught by teachers .
since i go to a christian school , its manditory to go to
the church and having classes calles " religeouse belifes"


ofcourse people wont actually prove that its a faccade , cuz in some way
it pays the bills ... hehe

this was told to me by my logic teacher.

P.S. - the people who raise theyre children like good little angels
and forbid them to do ALOT of NORMAL stuff , and basically
control theyre lives u are so SAD, i feel sorry for the normal children
who get sucked in to that weirass world.


Its not a matter of hope for self-gain, its a matter of selfless love.
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Mar 8 2011 11:56pm
I wonder if Stealth was expecting to be able to respond to some of the replies he got to this thread? Something tells me this thread backfired on him.
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Quote (bentherdonethat @ Mar 9 2011 12:56am)
I wonder if Stealth was expecting to be able to respond to some of the replies he got to this thread? Something tells me this thread backfired on him.


not at all. there is just no way i (or really anyone) will change someones mind about something by typing things over the internet or even telling them in person. So the task is up to the reader. Explore it for youself and see what happens. If you dont like where it takes you thats your prerogative
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Mar 9 2011 11:44am
I lol'd
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not at all.  there is just no way i (or really anyone) will change someones mind about something by typing things over the internet or even telling them in person.  So the task is up to the reader.  Explore it for youself and see what happens.  If you dont like where it takes you thats your prerogative

Your stated goal was to get non-believers to use a scientific mind to consider the possibility of belief in God. The scientific mind is necessarily one of doubt, and since there is not extraordinary evidence to back up the extraordinary claim of God's existence, the scientific mind rejects that claim. How is that not backfiring?
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Your stated goal was to get non-believers to use a scientific mind to consider the possibility of belief in God. The scientific mind is necessarily one of doubt, and since there is not extraordinary evidence to back up the extraordinary claim of God's existence, the scientific mind rejects that claim. How is that not backfiring?


Ive been told by many of my religous friends that we cant use scientific reasoning to justify gods existance. If we cant use that, then there are obvious flaws

I feel like hes condesending saying that belief is the only option after reviewing god again. I have seriously looked into it and tried to believe it, but i cannot deny myself; i dont have enough proof or evidence to support my claim and cannot believe it. Infact, i would argue the opposite in that after reviewing god, the logical conclusion to most would be at the very least some kind of skepticisim or confusion. I guess from there its subject to personal bias
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Mar 10 2011 12:20pm
The claim that science and the Bible do not agree should suprise anyone. What is called "science" is not static. Each generation brings new light; most of the old theories have been exploded by scientists themselves. Yet, each generation of scientists boldly announces that science has disproved the Bible.

But it can as easily be proved that science has disproved itself. With all their dogmatism about the Bible and science, there are few theories that real scientists are willing to take their stand upon and say: “Here is the ultimate truth; no future discoveries will contradict this.” So long as they cannot afford to affirm that they have arrived at ultimate truth, how can they with honor say that science disproves the Bible?

Besides, if the Bible fully agreed with the theories of one age, it would not agree with the theories of the next age. The Bible is unchangeable and cannot keep up agreement with that which constantly changes.

Some of the foremost scientists recognize the limitations of science and are firm believers in the Bible. Preach the Word! No known truth contradicts the Bible.
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The claim that science and the Bible do not agree should suprise anyone. What is called "science" is not static. Each generation brings new light; most of the old theories have been exploded by scientists themselves. Yet, each generation of scientists boldly announces that science has disproved the Bible.

But it can as easily be proved that science has disproved itself. With all their dogmatism about the Bible and science, there are few theories that real scientists are willing to take their stand upon and say: “Here is the ultimate truth; no future discoveries will contradict this.” So long as they cannot afford to affirm that they have arrived at ultimate truth, how can they with honor say that science disproves the Bible?

Besides, if the Bible fully agreed with the theories of one age, it would not agree with the theories of the next age. The Bible is unchangeable and cannot keep up agreement with that which constantly changes.

Some of the foremost scientists recognize the limitations of science and are firm believers in the Bible. Preach the Word! No known truth contradicts the Bible.


i rly hope you're not serious
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