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Nov 5 2010 01:41pm
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Premarital sex is wrong because sex, in its essence, is for reproduction, not for pleasure. It is only when you marry, that you should have sex. The intimacy and love you have with your spouse is what is suppose to make sex pleasurable. Also, the bible states that there is nothing wrong with alcohol, except when it is in excess. The bible condemns drunkenness and the actions provoked by drunkenness. Our judgement is impaired when we are intoxicated, and in turn, we are more inclined to be sinful.


What I say to that: says who? why wouldn't it be for pleasure? (at least between husband/wife I guess) Why shouldn't I have sex right now? STD's aren't an issue, my girlfriend is a virgin as am I. Condom = no pregnancy... please tell me why. Deep down I want to believe premarital sex is wrong. Open my eyes

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What I say to that: says who? why wouldn't it be for pleasure? (at least between husband/wife I guess) Why shouldn't I have sex right now? STD's aren't an issue, my girlfriend is a virgin as am I. Condom = no pregnancy... please tell me why. Deep down I want to believe premarital sex is wrong. Open my eyes


The Bible says so. The Bible is God's word, so if you are a Christian, then that is your reason for believing it is. The previous things I posted are a biblical perspective.

Also, depending on one's theology, the old law was negated due to Jesus' fulfillment of the law. He is the new law. The Old Testament laws were the only way to become righteous in front of God at the time. Because of the New Testament, Jesus serves as a permanent source of righteousness - unlike the regular sacrificial traditions in the Old Testament. It's not that he negates the Old Testament - he fullfills it, meaning that we no longer are righteous by the law, but by believing in him and the new laws he brought.

This does not mean that we should not respect the old law, or that we don't have things to learn from it. However, there are New Testament verses that agree with much of the Old Testament. Did you know that each of the Ten Commandments is spelled out verbatim multiple times in the New Testament?

Or, in regards to marriage - Matthew 5:27-28

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Hebrews chapter 13 (NLT)

4 Give honor to marriage, and remain faithful to one another in marriage. God will surely judge people who are immoral and those who commit adultery.

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What I say to that: says who? why wouldn't it be for pleasure? (at least between husband/wife I guess) Why shouldn't I have sex right now? STD's aren't an issue, my girlfriend is a virgin as am I. Condom = no pregnancy... please tell me why. Deep down I want to believe premarital sex is wrong. Open my eyes


The Bible says it. God says it. You have to make a choice whether or not you want to take a righteous, holy, God-filled life and live by his word, or lead a sinful, selfish life. Having sex right now would be a selfish and sinful action, no matter what. I can't really even begin to explain to you how much you have to learn about Christianity. I understand you were raised Christian, but I have a feeling you haven't really learned what it means to be Christian.
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Nov 5 2010 08:25pm
Quote (CrimsonEagle @ Nov 5 2010 01:41pm)
What I say to that: says who? why wouldn't it be for pleasure? (at least between husband/wife I guess) Why shouldn't I have sex right now? STD's aren't an issue, my girlfriend is a virgin as am I. Condom = no pregnancy... please tell me why. Deep down I want to believe premarital sex is wrong. Open my eyes


What I use as my secondary motivation to abstain from sex(primary being obedience to God) is this: what happens if the woman I have sex with and I do not get married? Many things can arise in a relationship that would cause it to flounder, and most of them are unforeseeable. Especially for those who are in the throes of developing love, or even deep-set infatuation. If we consummate our relationship, and then split up, I have defiled another man's wife, as well as robbed my future wife of that blessing. I have a deep-set respect for other peoples' belongings and rights due to how I was raised, so that helps to drive the point even deeper.

I use the same motivation in my constant fight against lust, based on the verse Matt 5:28 "But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (NLT) I think of the future husband that woman may find, and what I just took from him. I then relate that to how I would feel if I knew that another man had taken that from me by looking(or acting) upon those feelings with my future wife.

Hopefully this helps you hold out until you guys get married, I am 20 now and have managed to do so throughout my public high school and college life. It can be done, and God will give you the strength if you ask for it in earnest!

Verses to support this:

1 Corinthians 7:2-"But because of immoralities, each man should have relations with his own wife and each woman with her own husband." Paul speaking to the Corinthians on how to live a life pleasing to God. Arguably one of the most God-tuned men who have ever lived.

Hebrews 13:4-"Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous." I interpret this verse to refer to both past, present, and future sexual relations. Keep yourself pure, so that on your wedding night it can be just you and your wife, without any past experiences altering your perceptions.

Proverbs 5:15-19-"15 Drink water from your own cistern, And fresh water from your own well. 16 Should your springs be dispersed abroad, Streams of water in the streets? 17 Let them be yours alone, And not for strangers with you. 18 Let your fountain be blessed, And rejoice in the wife of your youth. 19 As a loving hind and a graceful doe, Let her breasts satisfy you at all times; Be exhilarated always with her love." It starts off saying to not engage in sexual relations willy-nilly, and then continues that you should enjoy having them with your wife.

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