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Have you ever considered the possibility that God is an alien? Just mix the bible in with the andromedan theory and it is perfectly believable. Makers shifted into a higher frequency of existence. Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."

Either way, I now believe in the bible whether it is God, aliens or not. It has knowledge and advice to share with us and I believe that was why it was truly created. Not to tell us how to live or how to be one with God. But to give us helpful advice and knowledge.


Even if God was an alien, or some higher species than us... would u hold taht against him? would taht stop you from realizing that he loves u?
If you honestly believe in the bible, then you would believe in hell. and that you would be going to a literal burning fire.

Is Hell mentioned in the Bible?

Hell is mentioned several times in the Bible. Here are a few of those instances:

2 Peter 2:4-5 says, "For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment."

Mark 9:46 describes hell as: "Their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."

Matthew 8:12 says, "But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Isaiah 66:24 reads: "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."

Daniel 12:2 describes the duration of hell: "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

Luke 16:22-24 uses a parable to describe hell: "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'"

Luke 12:5 says, "But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him."

Mark 9:47 says, "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell."

Matthew 23:33 reads: "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?"

Revelation 19:20 talks about the fiery lake: "But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur."

I KNOW IT'S OFFENSIVE THAT I AM SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO HELL BUT IT'S NOT ME SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HELL, IT'S THE BIBLE, AND YOU ARE AGREEING TO ME THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE!

This isn't rocket science, it's quite the opposite folks. You need child-like faith, much like a 2 or 3 year old that trusts in his father in everything.

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Even if God was an alien, or some higher species than us... would u hold taht against him? would taht stop you from realizing that he loves u?
If you honestly believe in the bible, then you would believe in hell. and that you would be going to a literal burning fire.

Is Hell mentioned in the Bible?

Hell is mentioned several times in the Bible. Here are a few of those instances:

2 Peter 2:4-5 says, "For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment."

Mark 9:46 describes hell as: "Their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."

Matthew 8:12 says, "But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Isaiah 66:24 reads: "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."

Daniel 12:2 describes the duration of hell: "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

Luke 16:22-24 uses a parable to describe hell: "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'"

Luke 12:5 says, "But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him."

Mark 9:47 says, "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell."

Matthew 23:33 reads: "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?"

Revelation 19:20 talks about the fiery lake: "But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur."

This isn't rocket science, it's quite the opposite folks. You need child-like faith, much like a 2 or 3 year old that trusts in his father in everything.


Here is my newfound beliefs. ready? An alien race created us our ecosystems and all the plantlife around in there own image and left behind textures to tell advise and knowledge us to be as how they would want us to be. They truly do love us and being technologically advanced creatures after they departed they created a technology making it capable to communicate with us (when people talk to god). Hell and Heaven are not actual places but just them trying to describe that they would be proud / unproud of us for what we had done in our life and as to avoid us going the wrong way as a race. If you follow the path to heaven humanity will go far, whereas if you follow the path to hell the opposite will happen. We are never told what God is and so he could well be another being. This is my newfound belief and I will stick by it. Whoever our creator is it was not evolution. If you read up there is no real pattern between aquatic life and land life just different lifeforms appearing and disappearing in different orders. It doesn't matter to me much WHO our creator is or WHERE I will go after I die. Simply as I follow in that creator's footsteps and fulfill my purpose. I refuse to follow religion but a creator I will follow as no human religion is flawless and whoever the creator is or whatever it is I will follow it by my own means.
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Here is my newfound beliefs. ready? An alien race created us our ecosystems and all the plantlife around in there own image and left behind textures to tell advise and knowledge us to be as how they would want us to be. They truly do love us and being technologically advanced creatures after they departed they created a technology making it capable to communicate with us (when people talk to god). Hell and Heaven are not actual places but just them trying to describe that they would be proud / unproud of us for what we had done in our life and as to avoid us going the wrong way as a race. If you follow the path to heaven humanity will go far, whereas if you follow the path to hell the opposite will happen. We are never told what God is and so he could well be another being. This is my newfound belief and I will stick by it. Whoever our creator is it was not evolution. If you read up there is no real pattern between aquatic life and land life just different lifeforms appearing and disappearing in different orders. It doesn't matter to me much WHO our creator is or WHERE I will go after I die. Simply as I follow in that creator's footsteps and fulfill my purpose. I refuse to follow religion but a creator I will follow as no human religion is flawless and whoever the creator is or whatever it is I will follow it by my own means.


so who created the bible?
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Who created god?
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Who created god?


Man, created god. Man created all. Its only an idea set forth by man.
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Aug 30 2010 10:07pm
It like the chicken vs. egg question. only with an answer.

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Man, created god. Man created all. Its only an idea set forth by man.


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nvm..

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so who created the bible?


the aleins LOLOLOL!1!!!?!?1LOLONE!1
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Even if God was an alien, or some higher species than us... would u hold taht against him? would taht stop you from realizing that he loves u?
If you honestly believe in the bible, then you would believe in hell. and that you would be going to a literal burning fire.

Is Hell mentioned in the Bible?

Hell is mentioned several times in the Bible. Here are a few of those instances:

2 Peter 2:4-5 says, "For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment."

Mark 9:46 describes hell as: "Their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."

Matthew 8:12 says, "But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Isaiah 66:24 reads: "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."

Daniel 12:2 describes the duration of hell: "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

Luke 16:22-24 uses a parable to describe hell: "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'"

Luke 12:5 says, "But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him."

Mark 9:47 says, "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell."

Matthew 23:33 reads: "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?"

Revelation 19:20 talks about the fiery lake: "But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur."

I KNOW IT'S OFFENSIVE THAT I AM SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO HELL BUT IT'S NOT ME SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HELL, IT'S THE BIBLE, AND YOU ARE AGREEING TO ME THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE!

This isn't rocket science, it's quite the opposite folks. You need child-like faith, much like a 2 or 3 year old that trusts in his father in everything.



I came across something interesting a while back. The new testament was originally written in greek before translated into various other languages but the words "Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, and Tartatus" were ALL translated into English as simply "Hell" in the King James Bible and a bunch of others.

For example:

Psalm 16 verse 10
New American Standard Bible
For You will not abandon my soul to Sheol; Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay.

GOD'S WORD Translation
because you do not abandon my soul to the grave or allow your holy one to decay.

King James Bible
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

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See what I mean? The meaning changes drastically.

here's another

Matthew 10 verse 28


Young's Literal Translation
'And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.

King James Bible
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

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-Sheol (pronounced "Sheh-ole"), in Hebrew שאול (Sh'ol), The common Gave of Mankind; Gravedom

-Hades (from Greek ᾍδης, Hadēs, originally Ἅιδης, Haidēs or Άΐδης, Aidēs, probably from Proto-Indo-European *n̥-wid- "the unseen place"
It also is the equivalent of the Latin word infernus which is again translated mistakenly into hell.

-Gehenna means “valley of Hinnom,” for it is the Greek form of the Hebrew geh hin·nom′. In Jos 18:16, where “valley of Hinnom” occurs, LXX reads “Gehenna.”
The valley of Hinnom lay to the west and south of ancient Jerusalem.

and lastly Tartarus. You can read about Tartarus here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartarus
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Who created god?


he has always been
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