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Aug 12 2011 10:07pm
Throughout my life I've never been religious. I was baptised as a baby but have never gone to church or read the bible. I'm a good person, don't do drugs, get in trouble, and help others. Basically my question is what happens to good people that just never "get into" religion? Are they just cast aside to hell??
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Aug 12 2011 11:51pm
It all depends on if you have a relationship with God and believe that He alone can save you from hell because He sent His Son to die as atonement for your sins if you believe in Jesus. Being a "good person" doesn't get you anywhere, unless you realize where everything good comes from. Pleasing God is where it's at.
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Aug 13 2011 01:10am
Definitely don't be religious. In fact, you have to be the opposite.

And yes, what Nate said was as accurate as it gets...

Blessings bro.
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Aug 13 2011 01:47am
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Definitely don't be religious. In fact, you have to be the opposite.

And yes, what Nate said was as accurate as it gets...

Blessings bro.


In some ways there is nothing wrong with being religious. It's when you put importance on the practices of religion, that's when you get into trouble. Religious practices are meant to being us closer to God, but some people put so much importance on religious habits that God gets pushed out of the picture =/
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Aug 13 2011 12:55pm
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. (Acts 16:31)

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:18)

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Aug 13 2011 05:37pm
Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. New King James Version (NKJV)

This is just one of many passages that mentions the requirement for baptism. More than simple belief is commanded from God. Satan and his demons believe....are they saved?
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Aug 13 2011 05:40pm
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Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptizedin the name of Jesus Christfor the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.  New King James Version (NKJV)

This is just one of many passages that mentions the requirement for baptism.  More than simple belief is commanded from God.  Satan and his demons believe....are they saved?


"Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ"

Rather than just physical water, be baptised into Jesus Christ.
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Aug 13 2011 06:22pm
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"Baptized in the name of Jesus Christ"

Rather than just physical water, be baptised into Jesus Christ.


Torm, how do you get "into" Christ?
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Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Aug 13 2011 04:37pm)
Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptizedin the name of Jesus Christfor the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.  New King James Version (NKJV)

This is just one of many passages that mentions the requirement for baptism.  More than simple belief is commanded from God.  Satan and his demons believe....are they saved?


This is a good point of how religion throws some off of true Christianity. The only thing you have to do is believe Jesus died on the cross for your sins and that God is your father Lord and savior. Do you have to physically be baptized in water? Of course not and to even consider this ( especially from someone who puts down people who haven't been baptized ) is insane.

Here is the only thing you will never be forgiven for

LUKE 12:10, "And everyone that says a word against the Son of Man, that will be forgiven; But he that blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will not be forgiven


MARK 3:29, "Whoever blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will never have forgiveness, but is guilty of everlasting sin."


MATTHEW 12: 31-32 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come".

The term " blasphemy has been interpreted as not accepting Jesus into your heart.

If at any point in those scriptures it mentioned baptism in water and not the holy spirit, please contact me asap.
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Aug 14 2011 10:20am
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Aug 13 2011 05:22pm)
Torm, how do you get "into" Christ?


I just think someone can be saved and born again without being baptised in physical water.

Its a subject we can disagree on, and vigorously debate, but not something we have to divide over in my opinion.

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WATER BAPTISM (THE STAND-OFF)

The predominant and most important doctrinal teaching which separates them from other Churches is the doctrine of "Baptismal Regeneration". This is in the general category of "Salvation by Works" also known as the "Faith Plus" (whatever) doctrine. In their case, salvation occurs by Faith in Jesus Christ PLUS water baptism. Water baptism is complete immersion in water for the remission of sins.

So we have before us a mixture of cult-like, sound, and unsound beliefs and practices by which other Churches must base their response to either accept or reject them. A common decision to view them as a Cult. It is an easy one to make, for "THEY" have already REJECTED YOU as NOT being a Child of God. Their own doctrine has drawn a line in the sand to speak by which they have rejected you, your doctrine, and your Church. Members are taught that for them to accept you as a Christian is to accept LIBERALISM.


Its a difficult subject because there are a couple of denominations that won't accept others as being Christian unless they are water baptised and adhere to that churches specific doctrines... But regardless, we should as Jesus said, "Know each other by their fruits".

Anyone who is indwelt by the holy spirit, a true follower of Christ, will know each other. Jesus said the easiest way to tell is that they will 'love one another'.

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