if they are gabbage, what do they need to be good? ty

more + skills to start, like 2 amazon skills.

Not "garbage" in the sense that if you were playing self-found, I imagine you'd get a lot of use out of them!

But you'd want at least +4 jav (+2 zon/+2 jav and spear/native +2 or +3)

I think 40 ias gets you more easily to your breakpoint without having to involve other gear, but it's been a while since I've played a jav zon.

The MAEK is really good though!

Yup straight to charsi, can get 5/30 on level 30 java I believe and 6/40 on level 45 javs

Ty guys! Appreciate it