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Mar 19 2016 01:39pm
I've noticed a lot of folks (who are maybe 8+ years out of college) who are 'software engineers' or developers don't know jack about troubleshooting issues.

They'll have some issue that takes one google/stackoverflow search to resolve, yet they seem to completely skip this and just ask for help right away..

Is this common across the industry?
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Mar 19 2016 02:09pm
Quote (lopelurag @ Mar 19 2016 03:39pm)
I've noticed a lot of folks (who are maybe 8+ years out of college) who are 'software engineers' or developers don't know jack about troubleshooting issues.

They'll have some issue that takes one google/stackoverflow search to resolve, yet they seem to completely skip this and just ask for help right away..

Is this common across the industry?



Why waste your time with 'lesser' issues when you can send your minions to figure it out/deal with it. (their mentality, not mine)
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Mar 19 2016 02:53pm
employees dont have much incentive to do their best work.

This post was edited by carteblanche on Mar 19 2016 03:03pm
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Quote (lopelurag @ Mar 19 2016 12:39pm)
I've noticed a lot of folks (who are maybe 8+ years out of college) who are 'software engineers' or developers don't know jack about troubleshooting issues.

They'll have some issue that takes one google/stackoverflow search to resolve, yet they seem to completely skip this and just ask for help right away..

Is this common across the industry?


this is why open source projects are usually built that much better, however slow they may go.. because people doing it for a hobby, spend their free time doing something they very much enjoy, thus doing it well.

if I was paid x amount whether I gave a shit or not, I'd not do a good job, either.
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Mar 20 2016 03:09am
I've been around the block a few more times than the average poster here and in that time I've discovered something:

The world is full of baddies. I have a pretty high opinion of most of the people who post in this thread, and you guy prob hang out with people like yourself so it might not seem as obvious to you. Trust me; the world is full of them.
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Mar 20 2016 06:01pm
Sounds like just about every end user I've seen, it's not just devs. I've even seen a handful of network and systems admins who couldn't properly Google cat picture, let alone troubleshooting solutions.

In their defense, a lot of tech folks simply don't know how to research effectively. Some of them don't even think of it as an option, it just never crosses their minds.
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Mar 21 2016 01:20am
Quote (lopelurag @ Mar 19 2016 02:39pm)
I've noticed a lot of folks (who are maybe 8+ years out of college) who are 'software engineers' or developers don't know jack about troubleshooting issues.

They'll have some issue that takes one google/stackoverflow search to resolve, yet they seem to completely skip this and just ask for help right away..

Is this common across the industry?


It seems pretty common, even at some of the bigger shops. That said, there's more than one way to add value to the product
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Mar 23 2016 09:46am
Quote (GRATS @ 20 Mar 2016 07:06)
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if I was paid x amount whether I gave a shit or not, I'd not do a good job, either.


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Mar 23 2016 10:00am
Quote (lopelurag @ 19 Mar 2016 21:39)
I've noticed a lot of folks (who are maybe 8+ years out of college) who are 'software engineers' or developers don't know jack about troubleshooting issues.

They'll have some issue that takes one google/stackoverflow search to resolve, yet they seem to completely skip this and just ask for help right away..

Is this common across the industry?


This is common.

And you have to be clear on this: if the solution to your question is right on first 3 page google results...

;)
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Mar 23 2016 02:38pm
I think its funny theres a guy in my class that works at epic and whenever he cant figure something out he ask me. i dont just give the answer or fix i explain it to him. it seems like he doesnt want an explanation and gives me the impression of being annoyed.

do older devs not understand that terminology is everything working as a group. plus it makes learning languages way easier.

idk how he works there i should apply for his possition see what happens lol
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