http://www.spcollege.edu/Technology_Management_Bachelors/#tab=3

this is CC I went to get to my teaching certificate for math. Was considering doing this program next, but what do you all think of this?

http://www.spcollege.edu/CareerPrograms/

also quite a few AS degree / certificates, any recommendations on those?

how do you expect us to rate it as being good or not? it's your responsibility to look into the school's reputation and ratings for the instructors. as for the class choices, that depends on what you plan to pursue. if you plan to teach math, how are we going to judge a non-math field? i suppose we could rate the instructors' attractiveness.

if your goal is to get the A+ certificate and work help desk, then i'd say that's a terrible program. if you want to become a web developer, that looks like a terrible program as well since they dont seem to have any classes focused on html/css/js/web.

This post was edited by carteblanche on Dec 9 2015 09:05am

based off the structure of the program? and types of work I can get?

both of which depend on what you want to do, what your alternatives are, and the job market in the location you plan to get a job. so you have two ways of approaching it:
1) pick your career and find a location that has the job, or
2) pick a location and look for what jobs are available.

sounds like you're in the #2 boat. so, go on a few job search sites / talk to recruiters and find out what kinds of jobs are available where you're at (or interested/willing to move to), then we can compare it with the curriculum you listed. IMO picking a major without knowing what researching what jobs you want is a mistake. that's how a lot of the liberal arts majors (journalism, etc) get into trouble.

i dug up your old thread from a year ago (didn't realize it was so long ago)
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=71579772&f=120

are you giving up on teaching then? still want to be a programmer for google?

no I'm being processed for a job this week...and graduate on saturday

not sure why its a big deal that I am trying to weigh options for the long run ? unless its not. im just weighing options and from what I understand this is a "good" one.

This post was edited by Duckling on Dec 9 2015 11:54am

it's a big deal in the sense it's a good thing for you to look into. i didn't say it's bad. it depends on whether you're interested in just getting a degree in the field or whether you're interested in acquiring skills.

just interested in degree: the school's reputation in your area is the most important part. if you plan to live in the same area, find the biggest name college you can go to. if you go to a local college and plan to move to the other side of the country, then they've never heard of it so i'd recommend finding the cheapest school with the degree. always pick the easiest possible classes to raise your grade. you'll know more about this than we do since we dont live in your area.

interested in skills: well, this depends on what jobs you intend to apply for. nowhere in your post did you provide that info, and you seem unwilling to provide it. i got the impression you dont know what jobs you want, so i suggested ways to help you determine what jobs are available.

dunno why you're being so stubborn.

sorry if I came across stubborn, but this is both an exciting and frustrating time for me in that I am about to start teaching but I do not want to get trapped and not develop skills/a new degree during this critical time that I believe I have.

and I think I did not provide the jobs I want because you may be correct I do not know which job I want (if any...besides teaching which I do not think is true besides at the exact moment I type this) so I am trying very hard to look at options.

I truly do not believe I will work in this area, I want out of this state and want somewhere big (NYC/Silicon Valley/Seattle..etc)

I also think I can't list this jobs because well I just do not know about all these jobs out there and what I can expect, but I am under the impression I feel that now of days I can almost "create" any job I want. So I am trying to synthesize this job that I want, but I may not even consider it a true job, but more of a lifestyle if anything.

p.s. I do appreciate your help I may have just taken it the wrong way - and I also see your posts through out this board and your tenacity to help others - something I have as well and truly admire of you and relate to as well (big reason I am becoming a math myself is to help)

This post was edited by Duckling on Dec 9 2015 01:53pm

it sounds like you're not especially passionate about any particular field. so what are your job-related priorities? money, location, lifestyle? do you just want to live in a big city as an "average" middle class person? do you want to make a lot of money? (if so, how much?) do you want a position of control, being your own boss?

if money is your interest, then start with that since it limits what career options are available. i believe any normal healthy person who's still in the college stage (and not tied down by family/location/etc) can make 100k+ a year within 10 years of education if they truly want to. from what i've seen, a lot of people say they want it, but when it comes down to it, they really don't. several of my friends went down this path and they're all making 100k+ in their 20s. some of them regret it, others dont. something like pharmacy or other professional degrees are a good example. on the other hand, if you want to make 200k+, then it limits your options a lot more.

if your goal is to work at google/microsoft/dropbox/etc to make good money, then the college you pick isn't very important. instead, focus on your free time. studying algorithms/data structures and contributing to open source projects is a very good start. i know several people who have gone there, some were talented / had a lot of interest, others put in a lot of hard work to compensate for lack of talent.

on the other hand, perhaps you value your free time a lot more than you value money. then coding is a pretty decent job outside of the big tech companies. instead of working 11 months a year for 120k, you can work 6 months a year for 60k and enjoy the rest of your time off

money - 7+ figures ( no joke I want this but i truly am only really pre-intro learning about it )
location - big city in a nice apt or town home ( may be wrong about this idk if living in a quite area is my thing JUST yet)
lifestyle - i like food & luxury but most of all i wnat this by doing big work - even though the word "big" is not a good adjective here idk how else to describe it atm

money is important to me dont get me wrong and i know it supposedly truly does not buy happiness but i think it will prepare me for what i truly want - at least i think
i am also trying to be cautious as well - maybe even over cautious - about what path i take too because I see people that take a path they thought was good and don't enjoy it.

you are on a solid track for me though of this 10k a monnth for 6 months (obv i know preparation needs to be done for this but i truly believe i can do it) but can i build on this?

i have a feeling im a bit frustrated because i am in my 20's and people out there do things such as being younger than me and probably having a better career/education/salary than me as far as work goes, or those that i suppose "got lucky" and were able to create a billion dollar corp in what seemed like no time - fb/db/spotify come to my mind atm and i feel as though because I have not reached that top yet idk what else to do

i only have one friend worth 7 figures, but he only earns mid 6 figures per year. i dont know any jobs where there's a set path with a high chance of getting it. for example, to be a pharmacist, there's a really high chance you'll get it if you want. whereas most 7 figure jobs are the rarer got-lucky or c-family, both of which have small chances. the only one i know of would be investment banking, but i wouldnt recommend it unless money is worth that much to you. a lot of people get out of IB and into something like hedge funds, which pay mid 6 figures instead of 7 figures, but more tolerable lifestyles. I'm actually semi-interested in being a workaholic and going down that path, but honestly money isn't worth very much to me, which is what's holding me back.


any half decent coder with a few years experience can do this. if i wanted, i could quit my job right now and get that. if you're not familiar with an average programmer's career, i'll briefly sum it up:
4 titles: junior, mid, senior, lead. after the lead position (~30 years old), you'll be faced with a decision: stay technical (mostly contracting) or go to management. there are some hybrid positions like architect, and some companies have more/less titles, but this is the general guideline.

right now i'm 26 at senior level. so i've only got one more promotion left before i have to make the decision, but i can switch to contracting at any time. i've been looking into it more and i keep thinking about whether to switch or not. there are pros/cons to employee/contractor. you can ask for details if it interests you.