How much would it cost to get a website like d2jsp created from scratch provided I paid a dev to do it and didn't do any of the work myself outside of explaining the concept to them?


What languages would best help me learn about the creation of such a website. (Recently started learning the basics of CSS and HTML on codeacademy; still very novice).



If you're knowledgeable about how the system functions as a whole pm me. Can pay fg for advice.

Well, the cost depends on if you find someone who would like to do it for their own fun as much as for earning a litte bit for it. Personally I got too much jobs already to do it like that. It is many many hours of work to set all of this up - I would say a full work week of 40 hours would come a long way, if not all.

To start you off I can tell you that most of the features here on d2jsp can actually be done with a common free forum with some extra mods - for instance PHPBB which I used for a couple of gaming sites, great addons and lots of knowledge out there on the web.

https://www.phpbb.com/

There are others like that and most of them are made in PHP so if you want to code some own addons for it you need to learn PHP. Basic knowledge of HTML and CSS will always help you finetune the look and feel of the site without going into the real code.

Then of course you need a host unless you already got that. If you want a cheap but still fully functional one I can recommend One.com

http://www.one.com

Any forum gold for this small starting advise is much appreciated

Sent a bit. Ty for the info.

Okay... That One site looks like a scam though. They claim 0 cost first year, but then add 9 dollars for a setup fee, mkay.

If you start from an open source php forum template like phpbb or smf it'll take about a week to have something functional, then count an extra week or 2 to fine tune it. If you want something stronger and faster you should develop your own server backend. Depending on the language you choose the dev time will vary. I'd expect it'll take a month or so in C/C++. 2 Weeks maybe with Python?

This post was edited by flyinggoat on Aug 21 2013 07:21am

So about a month, maybe 2 to play it safe? What level of programmer/web dev would have these skills (graduate student, current student at a good university?). What would be 'fair' pay to say have d2jsp designed from scratch.

It still depends on the how strong of a backend you want. Having it done in C/C++ will require a much better developer than for php. The notion of offer and demand comes in play too. C devs are much scarcer than php devs. Quality comes in play as well. Your average php dev will most likely leave some blatant security holes in his work. You would required a more seasoned dev to go over it later.

My advice to you is to look for a python dev. I haven't personally coded in ruby but I heard horror stories about it regarding security so I won't go around recommending it. Python is the right language for your task. It's not as demanding as C/C++, still strong enough for a forum backend, with quicker development time than C. Don't quote me on the price but I remember seeing offers for full forum overhaul in python in the $1-2k ballpark on freelancer. You should check the offers there to get an idea.

As far as skills go, in php, any scrub can do it. For python, anyone with a couple years worth of experience in web dev should be able to do it. For C, look for grad students, no less. Then again you shouldn't be looking for a C dev unless you want something extreme.

I really appreciate the info. Sent a bit of fg. Ty. May PM with additional questions.

thx for the fg o.o
questions are welcomed

What flyinggoat says is not wrong but I would like to emphasize his last sentence:



I strongly believe in the approach "good enough". The last 20% of quality, sturdiness, large number of simultaneous connections etc will come at a large price - probably 80% of the total cost...

With that said I would go for something like PHPBB with its tons of interesting mods (for instance a forum gold system) and see if it offers what YOU consider "good enough". With some help from a PHP coder you would then be able to tweak it even further.

@yaf: I have no idea what sales tricks one.com uses but I got several clients using them and they got a very fair fee - lots of bang for the bucks. There are loads of hosting companies though so it comes down to the detailed requirements - some may be cheap per bandwidth, some may be cheap per database megabyte etc. Support or not, good admin interface or not, good throughput speed and the list of details goes on. Hopefully there are hosting company compare lists if you Google it

This post was edited by Power on Aug 22 2013 02:39am