So I am pretty good in photoshop and illustrator (graphic wise) and I learned html and css 2 years ago.

I can build nice websites that are functional using only html and css.

Now I want to get up to date to build very nice websites (not revolutionnary ones like forums , myspace, facebook, twitter, or whatever), just mostly nice websites for business clients in the commercial.

Now i started since last week getting in with html 5 and css 3, but what are all these frameworks all the tutorials are based around ? PHP, Jquery, ruby, rails, Laravel 4....

This seems so intense and I don't either have 5-10 years in front of me to learn all these language, most of them I don't even understand what they do !

What languages should I learn ? thank you

Technology will never be able to replace the mind and the eye of a good designer.

Basic HTML and CSS will get you a long way to building a "very nice website". Both of those... (I hesitate to call them languages) languages are very easy to learn and to pickup.

Stick with learning HTML/CSS and start learning how to make some simple pages. Then go look around at other sites and look at / steal their source code to see how others do it. Don't worry about anything else for now.

This post was edited by irimi on Jan 22 2013 02:03pm

Yes but with those languages I always get trouble with positionning...

I'll be following tutorials on indepth css and html.. if this never gets ok for me i'll hire people do job.

http://teamtreehouse.com/

some good tuts here

If you want to start building dynamic websites, I'd suggest you start learning PHP.

It's an easy language to learn and you can build some advanced solutions with it.

I'd say stay off of PHP or anything else until you get a solid grip on what you can do with just HTML/CSS.

Learn to walk before you try to learn to run.

The principles of learning how to program apply here as well: learn the basics and the fundamentals. Languages are irrelevant and easy to pick up once you have a good foundation.

This post was edited by irimi on Jan 22 2013 04:36pm

post a few of the sites that you have coded, just curious to see how good your markup is before you start moving on to scripting languages.

i'd skip php all-together, ruby/rails is where it's at these days, our indian office uses php and we don't want to spend the time to fix their shit.

This post was edited by WhyteLinux on Jan 22 2013 06:41pm

I tend to agree. Ruby on Rails or even Django are pretty popular. PHP is only good with people who think PHP is your only option, or in cases where PHP is your only option (i.e. shared hosting).