Python is my personal favorite, easy to learn/use and still capable of doing very complex things

only 10k? they got robbed

Assembly

I'm a recent graduate and was asked during an interview if I knew cobol..






In your case of learning a language, I would go with Python.

This post was edited by ArtofApocalypse on Jul 9 2016 03:50pm

anyway the ops question is pointless, if he wants to learn to talk with the dev team about what they're doing he should learn the language they're using
and python sucks "but it's so easy to learn" = "ya cuz it sucks"



i know cobol programmers, they're doing the same shit i do in r&d. they're not working for tech companies pumping out crappy apps for a dime a dozen they're working for large institutions in finance, healthcare, and insurance working on real large scale projects. at a level scrubby python programmers cant understand
and they understand that what cobol does, it does well. ya you're not gonna write stupid little gui shit in it but no real coder likes doing that shit anyway.



10k more? that's a pretty big margin for a first job out of college

This post was edited by Ideophobe on Jul 9 2016 08:21pm

maybe for your school / area. it's within normal variance here. one java dev could get a job making 50k, another 60k, another 70k out of college. and just looking at the degree has a much larger variance.

averages don't care about variance

Exactly. It's simply not that useful for salary comparisons or job outlook.

what would be better, and what data do you have available to support any hypothesis you have on salary comparison

here's a cool stat
70-80% of all business transactions worldwide are written in COBOL today

you just refuse to acknowledge it because you, like so many others of our generation, have that app dev mindset, but that's not where the money is

This post was edited by Ideophobe on Jul 9 2016 09:47pm

im just saying that 10k/year difference on average based on a survey of recent graduates at your college isn't a "pretty big margin" around here to compare cobol vs java jobs.

though to answer your question, more statistical information would be helpful. for example, basic things like min, max, median, variance, and number of data points.



where did i ever say cobol didn't pay well? this is all i remember saying about it. if anything, that's the opposite of "cobol doesn't pay well"



This post was edited by carteblanche on Jul 9 2016 09:58pm