you're the one who brought up the previous argument by making

that jab. you ask for a help from these people a lot, you might treat them with respect regardless of whether or not you disagreed at one point.

I PMed the guy like he asked. I'm only posting here now to respond to you

People like him who are constantly on edge/quick to anger are overall not helpful IMO, regardless of how much knowledge they have. I know I jabbed, but I mean the guy is going around like his life is the ideal and that other peoples ways of thinking are foolish.



Seriously?

I don't know who he thinks he is, but I am not so desperate that I need help from some self-absorbed internet douche.

Please do go on I can't get enough. How about you follow me in some other threads I'm pretty sure I've hurt someone else's delicate internet feelings.

rockonkenshin is the least caustic person here (except for maybe carteblanche)
if you're going to jab anyone for being really critical, jab irimi not him

were you around when eaglesight was active?

I made a thread waaaay back. He posted and it was pretty nasty IIRC.

Now see, he was similar. Incredibly irritable and seemingly TOO knowledgeable, to the point where it was apparently hurting him to speak with people if they weren't on his level or something.

Bros like him need to do some yoga n shit.



I disagree. I find irimi to be WAY more level headed. Him and carter are actually helpful and they safely distance themselves from most conversations. I tend to go into conversations head first with no regard for the outcome.

This post was edited by Eep on Oct 23 2012 08:25pm

i miss him

and asbands

irimi is like the new asbands

This post was edited by AbDuCt on Oct 23 2012 09:04pm

Ok, I am going give you my opinion and this is based on a good ol' community college education lol. (which in all reality was a very good program) I started off going for my associates in computer information sciences (CIS), took Operating Systems I and II, LOTS of Math classes, all the core reading and writing (technical writing is a bitch), then intro to programming, programming, and advance programming, and other classes as well but we'll skip all that.. Basically after talking with professors and advisors, and thinking hard on it, I decided to switch major to Computer Network Engineer, as almost all programming jobs are outsourced to India and China.. Networking will always be in demand because of the manual labor and hands on aspect of it.. it cannot be outsourced, so for job stability i went in that direction and every siongle one of my credits transferred to my new major.. I really enojoyed networking a lot. I have not graduated yet, b/c earlier this year I recieved a job offer working for a VERY reputable bank at their core data center as an engineer. It pays really well *(especially considering a loit of my friends have degrees and cannot find a job) and the work we do is more or less all hands on physical work. I think networking is your best option for job options and stability.. A lot of web design classes are bullshit, and as i stated programming is outsourced.. Hope you found this somewhat helpful and if I sound like im rambling on I apologize ive been working overnight with only 2 hours sleep and I am TIRRED!!!!

Well, that's pretty obvious.



I miss ASBands too. He was a good guy.



First, congrats for picking something you enjoy. Now for the part I put emphasis on:

That is completely bullshit. People have been saying that "all programming is going to india/china/whatever-istan" for decades now and it's just as true then as it is now, which is to say not at all. Companies that outsource only do it for mostly menial jobs and they get a really poor result from it. I've never experienced any lack of jobs in the software industry and I graduated in the middle of a gigantic economic recession.

Well, thanks for congratulating me instead of flaming rigtht away lol. I honestly really do enjoy it, I really can't disclose the data center i work for they have very strict policies about those sorts of things.. But it is ALOT to learn. I will tell you that everything that I learned in shcool does not apply to anything that I am doing here besides the basic concepts and having that knowledge of components, but even then, there are so many different devices working on enterprise level.. With building and all servers/devices in our data center it is something close to 3.8 BILLION dollars, afterall it is the largest financial group in the world.. But you are right in the sense that it is menial work that is outsourced. Any company that has big projects and such usually have a team that they work closely with instead of having to use communicator, deal with language barrier and so on.. I did exaggerate a bit which isn't right because that is leading OP in the wrong direction, i apologize for that. But, I will stick to the fact that my professors and advisors did tell me that it would be easier to find a job in Networking than programming (this is all based off of what they told me) After taking programming courses and working on big projects for my class and seeing all the time it takes writing line after line after line of code ( not to mention are teacher MADE us use Linux, for EVERYTHING!) I realistically could not see myself sitting in front of a computer screen coding everyday. It just wasn't for me. if you are more into hardware and components (ie. building and installing physcial server, doing HDD changes, running fibre and copper connections, things along that line) I would deff suggest networking. If you are more into coding, learning diff languages, being behind the computer doing that work than you may be more into a CIS degree or coding (not sure what its called at your school) degree. Remeber that a degreee iun computer information systems is very broad and you dont have to just focus on coding, there are many different things you can do with that degree.