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Feb 3 2023 05:36pm
Anyone seized with 2.5 grams or less cocaine, heroin, meth, etc will not be arrested nor have the drugs taken but instead will be given a drug resource card. Is this good or bad for public safety in Canada?
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Feb 3 2023 05:39pm
2.5g is ridiculous for some of these drugs if these are in their purest form. Thus law can be fixed later.
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Feb 3 2023 05:41pm
Quote (MildSambal @ Feb 3 2023 06:36pm)
Anyone seized with 2.5 grams or less cocaine, heroin, meth, etc will not be arrested nor have the drugs taken but instead will be given a drug resource card. Is this good or bad for public safety in Canada?


Let's revisit in a year or two. See if deaths from over doses and crime rates went up or down.

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Feb 3 2023 05:43pm
Very bad. Have you walked around Vancouver lately?
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Feb 3 2023 05:54pm
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Let's revisit in a year or two. See if deaths from over doses and crime rates went up or down.


It's not exactly the same thing, but Norway's incarceration system has been around for almost a full generation now and its been seen as one of the most effective and humane in the world.

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2.5g is ridiculous for some of these drugs if these are in their purest form. Thus law can be fixed later.


It can definitely be abused with loopholes and brown paper bag boys

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Very bad. Have you walked around Vancouver lately?


nope I live in Indonesia where drugs are highly illegal, trafficking can get you executed here

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It's not exactly the same thing, but Norway's incarceration system has been around for almost a full generation now and its been seen as one of the most effective and humane in the world.


Whehey! ^^

But we are still struggling to decriminalize class a drugs. There is a strong lobbyist police organization here in Norway that are using extremely subtle and manipulative tactics to invoke fear as a tactic to scare minors to use drugs, or mostly marijuana which is the main issue as of now. Everyone knows that in order to solve or meet a problem, you must learn about it. The police has been using tactics like genital and rectal examination as a way to humiliate and traumatize very young youths, because they think that doing that saves them from wanting to associate with drugs of any kind and thus staying away from it, and keeping from forming drug communities. But all it does is that it creates a psychological barrier that becomes more tempting to break later with stronger drug use. It doesn't help anything. As well as the trauma itself of being humiliated and havng to live with the shame of the experience.

This is and has been a strong public discussion case for quite a while now and has gotten quite a few headlines. But whether the social public interest is strong enough to force through better solution remains to be seen. There has actually been reports though of such methods being less and less used, since the police now actually have been told by the state attorney that these kind of methods actually are and always have been illegal, unless there is a very good reason to use them. So that is a huge positive step in the right direction.

I simply just can't believe the drug politics is so naive and based in fear and manipulation tactics, instead of simply using knowledge, trust and guidance. Everyone must learn to find and trust their own boundaries, and which drugs they prefer. And those that wants to remain sober, can still do that if they want to.
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Feb 3 2023 06:07pm
Quote (MildSambal @ Feb 3 2023 03:36pm)
Anyone seized with 2.5 grams or less cocaine, heroin, meth, etc will not be arrested nor have the drugs taken but instead will be given a drug resource card. Is this good or bad for public safety in Canada?


its neutral, since nothing changes

They never arrested anyone for possession beforehand anyways

it changes nothing other than potentially relieving stress on the justice system
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Feb 3 2023 06:08pm
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Let's revisit in a year or two. See if deaths from over doses and crime rates went up or down.


we all know they're going to go up, but it won't be due to this, and this is impossible to control for either way
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Feb 4 2023 06:00am
:rofl: They are trying to do this in many parts of EU as well.
First they promoted degeneracy then they normalized mental disorders now normalizing drugs.
:thumbsup:

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Feb 4 2023 06:06am
Anything to facilitate you, your families and your peoples destruction.
Wake up please.
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