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Jan 28 2023 07:04am
What happens if he goes out with a public announcement and says; "If we register any more help coming in to Ukraine from the US and/or NATO, we will retaliate against those countries responsible as if they were Ukraine's allies and our enemies. This involves the use of nuclear weapons if we find it necessary."

What would the world do then?

Bonus question: What would be the wisest thing to do?

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Jan 28 2023 07:12am
Putins been doing that since the invasion began. Its nuclear blackmail.

Any direct retaliation against a NATO member state would be a suicide pact for Russia.
The question is not what should the west fo if Putin THREATENS retaliation.

It's what should the wests response be to actual retaliation.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 28 2023 07:20am
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Jan 28 2023 07:17am
what happens if USA realizes that they suddenly have no financial gain from the war they are actively supporting and extending?
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Jan 28 2023 07:25am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jan 28 2023 05:17am)
what happens if USA realizes that they suddenly have no financial gain from the war they are actively supporting and extending?


its for money laundering. would have to run out of money to launder
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Jan 28 2023 11:33am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 28 2023 09:12am)
Putins been doing that since the invasion began. Its nuclear blackmail.

Any direct retaliation against a NATO member state would be a suicide pact for Russia.
The question is not what should the west fo if Putin THREATENS retaliation.

It's what should the wests response be to actual retaliation.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/has-putin-threatened-use-nuclear-weapons-2022-10-27/
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Jan 28 2023 11:34am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 28 2023 05:33pm)


"The Kremlin chief said the West was plotting to destroy his country, engaging in "nuclear blackmail" by allegedly discussing the potential use of nuclear weapons against Moscow."

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Jan 28 2023 11:35am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 28 2023 01:34pm)
"The Kremlin chief said the West was plotting to destroy his country, engaging in "nuclear blackmail" by allegedly discussing the potential use of nuclear weapons against Moscow."

:bonk:


I know you said you only read singular quotes from articles but it might help to read the whole thing.
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Jan 28 2023 11:36am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 28 2023 05:35pm)
I know you said you only read singular quotes from articles but it might help to read the whole thing.


I read it all. Nothing new.

"I know you said you only read singular quotes from articles"
Bold claim, prove it.

I'm interested less in what journalists write. I'm interested in what politicians and ministers say, eg. quotes. Don't misrepresent.

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Jan 28 2023 11:41am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 28 2023 01:36pm)
I read it all. Nothing new.

"I know you said you only read singular quotes from articles"

Bold claim, prove it.


Did you not just say
"Putins been doing that since the invasion began. Its nuclear blackmail."?

That is not true, is what you should have gathered from that article.

And about the quotes thing, you said it in the Russia/Ukraine thread to Ferdia when she asked if you actually read the articles you post because you weren't aware of information from an article you posted....
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Jan 28 2023 11:48am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 28 2023 05:41pm)
Did you not just say
"Putins been doing that since the invasion began. Its nuclear blackmail."?

That is not true, is what you should have gathered from that article.

And about the quotes thing, you said it in the Russia/Ukraine thread to Ferdia when she asked if you actually read the articles you post because you weren't aware of information from an article you posted....


If you value journalistic articles more than direct quotes from leaders/politicians then its a mistake in my opinion.
I disagree. Russia has 100% been using their nuclear threat to deter the West from supporting Ukraine.

It's clearly implied in speeches from Putin, Kadyrov, Medvedev and other Kremlin shills; Its also implied from Russia's actions.
"Four days after the launch of the Russian invasion, on 28 February, President Putin ordered Russia's nuclear forces to go into a "special mode of combat duty", a state of high alert."

"Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov stated that further support of Ukraine could cause tensions which could potentially lead to a World War III scenario involving Russia's full arsenal of weapons"

In reality unless Putin goes renegade, the Russia doctrine only allows for a defensive or retaliatory strike. The point is Putin has been intentionally vague on what constitutes a threat to Russia from the West, and it would ultimately be his directive that initiated use of a nuclear weapon by Russia

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 28 2023 11:49am
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