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Dec 3 2022 10:01am
Just a reminder, the diary was written in ball point pen.
It didn't exist then.
A German court proved it was a fraud.
You are being lied to and manipulated by it.

In before, but my holocaust.
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Dec 3 2022 10:04am
Weird hill to die on, okay.
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Dec 3 2022 10:27am
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 3 2022 09:01am)
Just a reminder, the diary was written in ball point pen.
It didn't exist then.
A German court proved it was a fraud.
You are being lied to and manipulated by it.

In before, but my holocaust.


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Dec 3 2022 10:32am
Does not look like ballpoint to me





This post was edited by Meanwhile on Dec 3 2022 10:33am
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Dec 3 2022 01:25pm
Proof?
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Are there really entries in the diary in ballpoint pen?No, that is not correct. All the diary entries are written in various types of ink and (coloured) pencil, not in ballpoint. The document analysis by the Netherlands Forensic Institute showed that the main part of the diary and the loose sheets were written in grey-blue fountain pen ink. In addition, Anne also used thin red ink, green and red coloured pencils and black pencil for her annotations: not ballpoint.Nevertheless, the allegation can still regularly be seen on extreme right-wing websites and elsewhere that the diary of Anne Frank is written in ballpoint pen. Sneering remarks are made about “A. Frank the ballpoint girl”, and it is pointed out that the ballpoint pen only came into common use in Europe after the Second World War. The conclusion forced by this allegation is that the texts in the diary could not have been written by Anne Frank herself.The origin of the “ballpoint myth“The origin of the “ballpoint myth” is the four-page report that the Federal Criminal Police Office (the Bundeskriminalamt or BKA) in Wiesbaden, which was published in 1980. In this investigation into the types of paper and ink used in the diary of Anne Frank it is stated that “ballpoint corrections” had been made on some loose sheets. The BKA’s task was to report on all the texts found among the diaries of Anne Frank, and therefore also on the annotations that were made in Anne’s manuscripts after the war.However, the Dutch investigation by the Forensic Institute in the mid-1980’s shows that writing in ballpoint is only found on two loose pages of annotations, and that these annotations are of no significance for the actual content of the diary. They were clearly placed between the other pages later. The researchers of the Forensic Institute also concluded that the handwriting on these two annotation sheets differs from the writing in the diary ‘to a far-reaching degree.’ Photos of these loose annotation sheets are included in the NIOD’s publication (see The Diary of Anne Frank: The Revised Critical Edition, 2003, pages 168 and 170).In 1987, a Mr Ockelmann from Hamburg wrote that his mother had written the annotation sheets in question. Mrs Ockelmann was a member of the team that carried out the graphological investigation into the writings of Anne Frank around 1960.In short: the “ballpoint myth” is easy to disprove. The careless wording of the BKA report from 1980 – a report that for the rest in no way challenges the authenticity of the diary – or at any rate its openness to several interpretations, has taken on a life of its own in extreme right-wing circles.The “ballpoint myth” is based on the simple fact that, around 1960, two annotation sheets with ballpoint writing were inserted between the original pages. These texts were written by a graphological researcher, and are not included in any edition of the diary (apart from the Critical Edition, where photos of the annotation sheets are reproduced). In July 2006, the BKA found it necessary to state in a press release that the 1980 investigation cannot be used to call the authenticity of the diary into doubt.


https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank/go-in-depth/authenticity-diary-anne-frank/
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Dec 3 2022 01:30pm
Imagine my surprise when I learn the anti-masker/anti-vaxxer is a Holocaust denier.
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Dec 3 2022 01:42pm
The holocaust did happen, it was bad. The number of jewish people has been inflated.

Keep in mind. The Nazi's persecuted anyone who could not prove their family went back 3 generations of "Pure Aryan blood".

They also killed Non-Jewish - blacks, poles, soviets, romanian, spanish, homosexuals, any political opposition etc etc
not just jewish people.

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I don't get why these white nationalists act so against jewish people, it's ridiculous and only shines their own stupidity.

I believe in one race,.. The Human Race.

This post was edited by Mondain on Dec 3 2022 01:45pm
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Imagine my surprise when I learn the anti-masker/anti-vaxxer is a Holocaust denier.


Was there any surprise really?
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