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Nov 30 2022 01:03pm
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'Antisemite of the year' top 3 finalists announced


https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-723599

Top 3 so far:

Kanye West
Mohamed Hadid
Jon Minadeo II

I find it pretty interesting that Trump dined with the leading contender for the "antisemite of year" award and likely top 10 finalist Nick Fuentes.

I'm not sure I completely buy the story that Milo Yiannopoulos set this up with Trump to "make his life miserable" and that Trump was somehow tricked into the dinner.

I mean, it's clear to me that nobody needs to trick Donald Trump into eating dinner...
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Nov 30 2022 01:11pm
"Zionists" do not represent all the jews in the world, but the guy was so clumsy with it he mixed all in the same bag and now can only blame himself.
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Nov 30 2022 01:18pm
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"Zionists" do not represent all the jews in the world, but the guy was so clumsy with it he mixed all in the same bag and now can only blame himself.


Even then, if you don't like Zionists, it's still better to point out which specific parts of their ideology you would like to see changed instead of saying the things he said.
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Nov 30 2022 02:05pm
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Even then, if you don't like Zionists, it's still better to point out which specific parts of their ideology you would like to see changed instead of saying the things he said.


"Zionists" was one of the point in the article which is pretty vague on exactly what the guy (and other guys) said.

I will list it myself using these keywords

Kanye West antisemite quotes:

“I prefer my kids knew Hannukah from Kwanzaa. At least it will come with some financial engineering.”
“Planned Parenthood was made by Margaret Sanger, a known eugenics, with the KKK to control the Jew population. When I say Jew, I mean the 12 lost tribes of Judah, the blood of Christ, who the people known as the race Black really are. This is who our people are.”
“This ain’t a game. Imma use you as an example to show the Jewish people that told you to call me that no one can threaten or influence me. I told you this is war. Now gone get you some business.”
“I’m a bit sleepy tonight but when I wake up I’m going death con 3 On JEWISH PEOPLE. The funny thing is I actually can’t be Anti Semitic because black people are actually Jew also You guys have toyed with me and tried to black ball anyone whoever opposes your agenda.”


Mohamed Hadid antisemite quotes

Hadid, posted on Instagram a photo of Einstein along with the following quote: “It would be my greatest sadness to see Zionists (Jews) do to Palestinian Arabs much of what Nazis did to Jews.”
“I would say ( He Was A Smart and a Wise Man) I hope few would listen and few can open there eyes. And few that can soften their Hearts and few can look into their own soul and few that can save lives and like my father and family opened there homes to the fleeing Jewish families from Hitler the Butcher. Open your hearts and eyes. Don’t let history Re write the ugly truth .. may God Bless Us all.”


Jon Minadeo II antisemite quotes

Jon Minadeo, a notorious San Francisco Bay-area antisemite, was arrested in Poland last month for posing with antisemitic banners at the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp.
Minadeo, 39, published a photo of himself on social media holding up a banner that read, “Greenblatt suck 6 million dicks” a reference to Jonathan Greenblatt, the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League. Greenblatt is a frequent target of Minadeo on social media.


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Hmm hard to say which one is the winner, they all have a different style, but Hadid was definitely clumsy by saying all jews for zionists (even the simple "zionist" is icorrect imo, it's more like Neo-Zionists:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Zionism
Neo-Zionists consider "secular Zionism", particularly the labor version, as too weak on nationalism and that it never understood the impossibility of Arabs and Jews living together in peace.

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Nov 30 2022 02:29pm
I thought black people couldn't be racist? (due to power structure or something; whatever FOTM definition is being used)
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Nov 30 2022 02:41pm
Quote (mki @ Nov 30 2022 02:03pm)


https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-723599

Top 3 so far:

Kanye West
Mohamed Hadid
Jon Minadeo II

I find it pretty interesting that Trump dined with the leading contender for the "antisemite of year" award and likely top 10 finalist Nick Fuentes.

I'm not sure I completely buy the story that Milo Yiannopoulos set this up with Trump to "make his life miserable" and that Trump was somehow tricked into the dinner.

I mean, it's clear to me that nobody needs to trick Donald Trump into eating dinner...



If those are the worst quotes they could find as examples of antisemitism, it seems to me their entire "StopAntisemitism" movement isn't really needed.

A "blacks are the real jews" rapper, a clumsy quote which still somehow defends jewish people and a guy trolling Greenblatt...
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Nov 30 2022 03:43pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ 30 Nov 2022 15:05)
(even the simple "zionist" is icorrect imo, it's more like Neo-Zionists:


Zionism is an ideology that has many facets and sub types.

Quote (TritonV8 @ 30 Nov 2022 15:29)
I thought black people couldn't be racist? (due to power structure or something; whatever FOTM definition is being used)


Anybody can be racist.

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 30 Nov 2022 15:41)
If those are the worst quotes they could find as examples of antisemitism, it seems to me their entire "StopAntisemitism" movement isn't really needed.


The people who's grandparents who were burned alive or gassed to death would not agree. Actions obviously speak louder than words, but actions usually start as discussion. I would say that their concerns are valid, granted they might be overreacting because I think Kanye is just saying things to draw attention to himself, but I could be wrong.

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 30 Nov 2022 15:41)
A "blacks are the real jews" rapper, a clumsy quote which still somehow defends jewish people and a guy trolling Greenblatt...


Obviously both groups of people were seriously wronged at one point in world history or more. I would say that comment is clearly offensive to Jewish people though. It's also pretty absurd at face value.

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Nov 30 2022 03:48pm
Quote (mki @ Nov 30 2022 04:43pm)

The people who's grandparents who were burned alive or gassed to death would not agree. Actions obviously speak louder than words, but actions usually start as discussion. I would say that their concerns are valid, granted they might be overreacting because I think Kanye is just saying things to draw attention to himself, but I could be wrong.



Obviously both groups of people were seriously wronged at one point in world history or more. I would say that comment is clearly offensive to Jewish people though. It's also pretty absurd at face value.



Yeah sure, Jews had it rough. None of the people "nominated" here had anything to do with that and none of them are calling for the Holocaust to happen again, unless that 3rd guy isn’t memeing and is building an army :rolleyes:
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Nov 30 2022 03:59pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 30 Nov 2022 16:48)
None of the people "nominated" here had anything to do with that and none of them are calling for the Holocaust to happen again, unless that 3rd guy isn’t memeing and is building an army :rolleyes:


You have a point and it is definitely hard to determine whether people are serious or whether they are just saying controversial things because they get attention in the media. Like as an example, nobody is going to interview me over my opinion on this subject. I'm just sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out why people would want to be known for saying those types of things.
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Nov 30 2022 10:55pm
Does anyone really think Kanye is in the top 1000 bad people that have met with a president?
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