I'm sick as a dog and staying home from work. I will, in good faith, debate anyone who gives an earnest reply to this thread regarding transgender existence, the difference between sex and gender, or anything else similarly related.

See you in the Blood Moor, kid.

By affirming and supporting gender reassignment surgeries/transitions we are also re-entrenching traditional gender roles.

You can be a fem man and have long hair, wear jewelry or makeup, etc.

You can be a masc woman and have a buzz cut, powerlift, and never wear makeup, etc.

Instead of normalizing self expression throughout a multitude of possible avenues and promoting cultural/societal acceptance (for “both” sexes) we have instead normalized transitioning to the other sex to become more aligned with the individual’s expressed traits in accordance to gendered stereotypes held by the prevailing society. (Two spirit seems to acknowledge this conundrum)

***overall I believe that bodily autonomy should be granted to every individual...I don’t understand why people get so caught up with this topic. Ultimately individuals should be free to do what they please and have that choice respected.

**hope you feel better soon!

Men are Men
Women are Women
Hermaphrodites are Both

end of debate

There exists an old tradition with in certain versions of Christianity, where the priest of a church will select, typically young boys, for potential senior positions with in the church, and perform a loyalty test to see if they are loyal to the church.

In many cases, this loyalty test involved hazing, molestation, and rape.

The concept was relatively simple: If they stayed quiet, they were loyal, if they did not, the priest would just deny anything they said.

Obviously in ancient times there was no such thing as forensic evidence and the priests were not punished for their behavior until recent times.

This practice was passed down through the generations, but has been phased out of most churches, as it has been deemed to be socially unacceptable.

Do you think that this specific tradition qualifies as "religious freedom" and should be a protected practice under the 1st amendment of the US constitution?

Gender dysphoria and Gender Identity Disorder is a Mental Illness

I can understand your perspective in the thought of whether trans-affirming care reinforces certain gender stereotypes. However, I would only find myself agreeing with that conclusion if gender-affirming care was approached from a one-size fits each gender approach, which it doesn't. There is no one way to be trans, and no gender-affirming care journey is going to look exactly the same. People, including transgender people, comprise a spectrum and that some (perhaps even a majority) transgender people follow a so-called "traditional trans narrative" does not invalidate the spectrum we all find ourselves--trans or otherwise. I agree then that "bodily autonomy should be granted to each individual".

And thank you. I hope I feel better soon as well. I have been sick since Friday night and this is probably the worst illness I've had in 10+ years.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Nov 15 2022 05:42pm

No, I do not.

The Normalization of Deviance is a major factor in why we see people falling victim to the trans trend.

How many more young people need to mutilate their body before enough realize this is a mental health issue.

I'd be happy to give this an earnest reply if you're being genuine. I will say that I am presently unsure that that is the case.

Everything I've posted is not in hate but in the facts which I have researched.

If a man prefers the company of another man, that's fine.

But nobody can change reality, the reality is you're born with a gender and that's your gender until 6 feet under.