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Nov 9 2022 01:35pm
After 2022 election day, we see what appears to be a tied or Dem +1 Senate, and a very slight Republican majority in the House. Yawn.

For me, the most interesting takeaway is DeSantis. Not only did he win his race, not only did he drag Rubio across the finish line to handily win his senate race, not only did DeSantis absolutely crush Crist by about a 20 point margin, but he also flipped Miami red. That, combined with Trump-endorsed candidates having a tepid performance in their own races means that DeSantis is now the de facto leader of the Republican Party hopes for 2024. Betting Odds has confirmed this as well, with DeSantis now decisively beating both Biden and Trump. (I do believe Biden will be the Democrat nominee in 2024. Nobody wants Kamala, and Biden continues to be the highest performer in polls against all possible opponents.) DeSantis is relatively young, behaves himself better on social media, plays way better with suburban women, and is the #1 standard bearer for resisting Covid tyranny.

Since Arizona's voting machines mysteriously broke the day of the election in Arizona, we won't know if Kari Lake will win her race for some time. If she doesn't, nothing would then stop her from being the perfect running mate for 2024.

The question then becomes, could DeSantis/Lake beat Trump in the primary? Before yesterday, I would've said no. Today, yes.

This post was edited by Thebarba on Nov 9 2022 01:37pm
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Nov 9 2022 01:45pm
i personally hope he beats trump, if for no other reason than the memes.
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Nov 9 2022 01:45pm
yeah it’s his to lose. trump’s style worked in 2016 but it’s tired out
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Nov 9 2022 01:47pm
Trump on DeSantis:

“If he runs, he runs,” Trump reportedly explained. “If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign.”


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Nov 9 2022 02:19pm
I'm 95% sure Trump wins the Republican primary, even if he gets indicted. Happy to take FG bets from anyone, 1:1.

Republicans and the right have been conditioned for 7 years that people who oppose Trump are bad and should be shunned/criticized. Every scandal under his administration was met with turning-reality-on-its-head narratives and circling the wagons(Hey Goom!). This position has been hardened to such an extent that after Trump's efforts to overturn a valid election in 2020, after he incited an insurrection on the Capitol, the right-wing media, politicians, and most importantly voters, stuck with him.

So the idea that DeSantis is going to get on stage opposing Trump and survive makes no sense at all. And it's not going to just be Trump vs. DeSantis, it's going to be 2016 replayed, with several "Team Normal" candidates and Trump. Trump wins that easily.

People who pretend DeSantis has a chance do not understand the right-wing or the Trump cult. These are the same people who minimized Trump's election denial before and after the 2020 election, believing that no harm would come because of it, and then January 6th happened.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 9 2022 02:22pm
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Nov 9 2022 02:21pm
Desantis 2024 :thumbsup:

He has Ideas and Policies! There are people in the government who will work with him.
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Nov 9 2022 02:29pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 9 2022 11:47am)
Trump on DeSantis:

“If he runs, he runs,” Trump reportedly explained. “If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign.”


This honestly sounds like blackmailing.
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Nov 9 2022 02:37pm
Anybody but trump I'll support as president

I am hopeful that DeSantis will be the 2024 nominee, and if he wins that we can get back to normal. Get past the MAGA plague

Hope he can bring maturity and stability back to the GOP. Be done with the chaos/extremism/2020 election lies. Enough is enough

If he is the nominee I would only hope he picks someone moderate as his running mate like Marco Rubio, not somebody extreme like Kari Lake. America needs to move on from the extremism and division the MAGA plague created


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Nov 9 2022 02:42pm
Forgot this in my first post: DeSantis would do well to serve out his next governor term and skipping any 2024 bid for US President.
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Nov 9 2022 02:45pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 9 2022 03:19pm)
I'm 95% sure Trump wins the Republican primary, even if he gets indicted. Happy to take FG bets from anyone, 1:1.

Republicans and the right have been conditioned for 7 years that people who oppose Trump are bad and should be shunned/criticized. Every scandal under his administration was met with turning-reality-on-its-head narratives and circling the wagons(Hey Goom!). This position has been hardened to such an extent that after Trump's efforts to overturn a valid election in 2020, after he incited an insurrection on the Capitol, the right-wing media, politicians, and most importantly voters, stuck with him.

So the idea that DeSantis is going to get on stage opposing Trump and survive makes no sense at all. And it's not going to just be Trump vs. DeSantis, it's going to be 2016 replayed, with several "Team Normal" candidates and Trump. Trump wins that easily.

People who pretend DeSantis has a chance do not understand the right-wing or the Trump cult. These are the same people who minimized Trump's election denial before and after the 2020 election, believing that no harm would come because of it, and then January 6th happened.


1k v 1k, confirmed.
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