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Oct 31 2022 04:12pm
So there's been some major protesting in Iran for several weeks over the beating death of a woman in custody by the morality police.

Now today, there's news getting out that among the many dozens of people killed by police since protesting erupted, is a middle school girl who was beaten to death for having a torn up photo of Khomeini in one of her books.

Iran blames this all on the dirty Jews and their Satanist backers.

Apparently, introspection is not in their repertoire.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-721095
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Oct 31 2022 04:24pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 31 2022 03:12pm)
So there's been some major protesting in Iran for several weeks over the beating death of a woman in custody by the morality police.

Now today, there's news getting out that among the many dozens of people killed by police since protesting erupted, is a middle school girl who was beaten to death for having a torn up photo of Khomeini in one of her books.

Iran blames this all on the dirty Jews and their Satanist backers.

Apparently, introspection is not in their repertoire.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-721095


I would be ok with wiping these religious fanatics off the planet.
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Oct 31 2022 04:45pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ 31 Oct 2022 23:24)
I would be ok with wiping these religious fanatics off the planet.
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So true. Religious fanatics are everywhere in all countries.

Those ones in particular are terrible, btw IMO they aren't really believe in anything anyway, it's more like an over-bidding in-between themselves for which ones will be the most extreme.

Not only in Iran.
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Oct 31 2022 04:45pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ 31 Oct 2022 23:24)
I would be ok with wiping these religious fanatics off the planet.
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if only it were that easy. i mean clearly those fundamentalist fanatics are pathetic excuses for human beings, and i wish iranians all the courage and power to get rid of their religious oppressors, but let's not forget how the ayatollahs came to power in the first place in 1979, let's not forget why iranians chose those bastards over the even bigger evil imposed on them by the US and the UK in 1953.

i just hope that a new revolution won't see the kind of western exploitation as its driving force and final goal, but an empowerment of the iranian people, taking control of their political future and natural resources, and becoming a part of the international community again.
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Oct 31 2022 04:53pm
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if only it were that easy. i mean clearly those fundamentalist fanatics are pathetic excuses for human beings, and i wish iranians all the courage and power to get rid of their religious oppressors, but let's not forget how the ayatollahs came to power in the first place in 1979, let's not forget why iranians chose those bastards over the even bigger evil imposed on them by the US and the UK in 1953.

i just hope that a new revolution won't see the kind of western exploitation as its driving force and final goal, but an empowerment of the iranian people, taking control of their political future and natural resources, and becoming a part of the international community again.


Yea I don't want the US involved but I am sure sick of hearing about all these loser's imposing their shit on people.
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Oct 31 2022 05:00pm
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Yea I don't want the US involved but I am sure sick of hearing about all these loser's imposing their shit on people.


oh definitely, it's disgusting. they already are everything christian conservatives only dream of being right now. they definitely need to go - in a painful and lasting way, if you know what i mean...
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Oct 31 2022 05:12pm
Quote (fender @ 31 Oct 2022 23:45)
if only it were that easy. i mean clearly those fundamentalist fanatics are pathetic excuses for human beings, and i wish iranians all the courage and power to get rid of their religious oppressors, but let's not forget how the ayatollahs came to power in the first place in 1979, let's not forget why iranians chose those bastards over the even bigger evil imposed on them by the US and the UK in 1953.

i just hope that a new revolution won't see the kind of western exploitation as its driving force and final goal, but an empowerment of the iranian people, taking control of their political future and natural resources, and becoming a part of the international community again.

That's really the biggest tragedy of it all: in Iran in 1979, idealistic young folks, most of them on the liberal side of the spectrum, were out of touch with reality and horribly naive in their assessment of the situation. Their hatred of the imperialistic Western devil, coupled with completely unrealistic hopes for the future, prompted them to align themselves and help bring to power one of the most regressive and illiberal regimes in history. Out of ideological delusion, these bright, hopeful young people made the wrong choice and picked the side which - with the benefit of hindsight - was clearly the bigger evil, clearly worse than the Shah and his Western overlords. In a crucial moment, they made the wrong choice, and they and their children suffer the consequences to this day.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 31 2022 05:12pm
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Oct 31 2022 05:20pm
Building a "religious" nation, meaning including religion in consitution, even just a few, is the most devious trap ever.
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Oct 31 2022 05:23pm
unfortunately, even if the people can overthrow the regime, they will fall right into a cage to fight

the west and china will fight over iran and its resources like hyenas over a fresh carcass

what continues to suprise me is how much support the mullah regime still has

to succeed at least some parts of the police and military have to turn on the regime
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Oct 31 2022 05:48pm
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That's really the biggest tragedy of it all: in Iran in 1979, idealistic young folks, most of them on the liberal side of the spectrum, were out of touch with reality and horribly naive in their assessment of the situation. Their hatred of the imperialistic Western devil, coupled with completely unrealistic hopes for the future, prompted them to align themselves and help bring to power one of the most regressive and illiberal regimes in history. Out of ideological delusion, these bright, hopeful young people made the wrong choice and picked the side which - with the benefit of hindsight - was clearly the bigger evil, clearly worse than the Shah and his Western overlords. In a crucial moment, they made the wrong choice, and they and their children suffer the consequences to this day.


mohammad reza pahlavi was a puppet installed by the US and the UK to exploit iranian oil resources. yes, he personally was a better human being than what the ayatollahs eventually turned out to be, but that doesn't make overthrowing foreign rule a bad / delusional / unrealistic / idealistic decision. i'd begrudgingly give you that point if a better alternative were unheard of (generously ignoring the fact that decent access to international news already existed in the 50s) - but in your aggressive victim blaming attempt, trying to downplay western exploitation and lay the blame squarely upon liberal young iranians (quelle surprise), you completely forgot about mossadegh. the blame for iranians' suffering is with who overthrew HIM, not with who overthrew the exploiters of IRANIAN natural resources...
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