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Oct 8 2022 07:26am
Murders a woman, gives money to her family, continues to live as a free man. Murdered a cinematographer on the set of a movie.

They are actually continuing to film the movie.




My lord I hope this movie is a piece of shit. What a sad situation.
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Oct 8 2022 08:38am
I'll take "People who don't understand the difference between accidents and intent" for $1000, Alex.

That being said, the set armorer and the 1st AD certainly share some liability for a loaded weapon being unknowingly placed in an actor's hands. Some sort of civil liability for Baldwin, being the one who pulled the trigger? Sure. Murder? FOH.
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Oct 8 2022 09:02am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Oct 8 2022 09:38am)
I'll take "People who don't understand the difference between accidents and intent" for $1000, Alex.

That being said, the set armorer and the 1st AD certainly share some liability for a loaded weapon being unknowingly placed in an actor's hands. Some sort of civil liability for Baldwin, being the one who pulled the trigger? Sure. Murder? FOH.


I don't even know if civil liability is appropriate for Baldwin honestly.

This incident from what I read seemed like it fell on the the execs who over worked them to the point they can't do their job safely.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 8 2022 09:02am
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Oct 8 2022 09:37am
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Murders a woman, gives money to her family, continues to live as a free man. Murdered a cinematographer on the set of a movie.

They are actually continuing to film the movie.




My lord I hope this movie is a piece of shit. What a sad situation.



Are you really this dumb?
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Oct 8 2022 11:01am
he’s always had a wicked temper and a sick temperament. wouldnt put it past him to act in a malicious manner. anyone hear the rage voicemail he left his daughter when she was younger? very disturbing behavior
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Oct 8 2022 11:57am
the guy is a killer and he got away with it.
no accident.
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Oct 8 2022 12:42pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Oct 8 2022 07:38am)
I'll take "People who don't understand the difference between accidents and intent" for $1000, Alex.

That being said, the set armorer and the 1st AD certainly share some liability for a loaded weapon being unknowingly placed in an actor's hands. Some sort of civil liability for Baldwin, being the one who pulled the trigger? Sure. Murder? FOH.


TDS and guns
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Oct 8 2022 01:15pm
Armourer is 100% at fault.
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Oct 8 2022 01:50pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 8 2022 02:15pm)
Armourer is 100% at fault.


Not 100%. There are multiple checkpoints for set weapons on a production of that size, which include the propmaster or assistant propmaster, the armorer, and the 1st AD. The 1st AD is the one who handed the gun to Baldwin and called "cold gun". The 1st AD is also responsible for checking that the gun was, in fact, safe.
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Oct 8 2022 01:59pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 9 2022 08:15am)
Armourer is 100% at fault.


No it's the assistant director who wasn't qualified gave the gun and confirmed it was cold. Armourer wasn't even on set although its their responsibility to load, unload check the firearm.
General safety and common sense wasn't there as you are not supposed to point a gun directly at someone. Overall a cluster fuck
Negligible homicide 5 - 10 years to the one who loaded the weapon and a fine to production would of been my verdict
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