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Sep 30 2022 12:16pm
Is white privilege real or an excuse people use for their failures?
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Sep 30 2022 12:27pm
poll is wonky because its a yes/no for 2 different questions

its an excuse

'peer privilege' is always a thing, you have german privilege in germany, black privilege in africa, etc
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Sep 30 2022 12:40pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 30 2022 02:27pm)
poll is wonky because its a yes/no for 2 different questions

its an excuse

'peer privilege' is always a thing, you have german privilege in germany, black privilege in africa, etc


That's how i see it too. I know a good amount of non-white successful persons. They don't uses excuses for their failures and keep working hard to reach their goals.
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Sep 30 2022 12:50pm
would you trade your skin color for a different skin color

therein lies your answer
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Sep 30 2022 12:51pm
It's more of a class privilege rather than white privilege. Historically whites have been in a higher class vs blacks/Hispanics. Nowadays I would say some white privilege still exists but most of the time it's being thrown around way too much.

In a lot of high end jobs now you see tons of Indians and Asians. If white privileges was really that prevalent that wouldn't be the case.
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Sep 30 2022 12:52pm
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That's how i see it too. I know a good amount of non-white successful persons. They don't uses excuses for their failures and keep working hard to reach their goals.


Privilege is not about success being impossible for individual successes. It's about it being harder on average.
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That's how i see it too. I know a good amount of non-white successful persons. They don't uses excuses for their failures and keep working hard to reach their goals.


and certainly in America, this peer privilege is far far less than any other nation that has ever existed in human history.

in Africa there is ofcourse tribalism between different black ethnicities. And in other nations especially European white ones, even sectarian tribalism between people of the same ethnicity

America & Canada are the only nations that in general treat you not by your ethnicity or faith, but simply your merit. They are the best examples of successful Imperialism, where Britain was able to export its ideal cultural practices without the yoke of regional tribalism and elitism.
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Sep 30 2022 12:54pm
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Privilege is not about success being impossible for individual successes. It's about it being harder on average.


in that case don't you think Class privilege far far far exceeds any sort of racial privilege, especially in America?

Being higher class makes everything far easier on average, in a far more direct and quantifiable way
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Sep 30 2022 12:56pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 30 2022 01:52pm)
and certainly in America, this peer privilege is far far less than any other nation that has ever existed in human history.

in Africa there is ofcourse tribalism between different black ethnicities. And in other nations especially European white ones, even sectarian tribalism between people of the same ethnicity

America & Canada are the only nations that in general treat you not by your ethnicity or faith, but simply your merit. They are the best examples of successful Imperialism, where Britain was able to export its ideal cultural practices without the yoke of regional tribalism and elitism.


The United States isn't even as good on "peer privilege" as the average European country lol. Much less "every nation that has ever existed".

Also lol @ America not treating you by your ethnicity or faith. You've either never been a minority or never been an atheist in the south. I've been actively discriminated against just for saying I'm an atheist.

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It's more of a class privilege rather than white privilege. Historically whites have been in a higher class vs blacks/Hispanics. Nowadays I would say some white privilege still exists but most of the time it's being thrown around way too much.

In a lot of high end jobs now you see tons of Indians and Asians. If white privileges was really that prevalent that wouldn't be the case.


What you are seeing is immigrants who are well off enough to come to the USA and get an education and comparing that to the average white person. It's class privilege outweighing minority disprivilege.

Class privilege is definitely a thing, but so is racial privilege.
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Sep 30 2022 12:57pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 30 2022 11:54am)
in that case don't you think Class privilege far far far exceeds any sort of racial privilege, especially in America?

Being higher class makes everything far easier on average, in a far more direct and quantifiable way


to add, modern social class in America is not stratified like other countries, but very much a spectrum where class can be determined by wealth, meaning that anyone who has any, no matter how small, extra wealth over the next person is therefore privileged

This means that every single person in America is privileged except for exactly one - that one person is the poorest person in the country
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