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May 16 2022 11:34am
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/16/politics/somalia-troop-redeployment/index.html

After being ended by the outgoing president trump, biden has resumed the US war in somalia and is deploying 500 troops.
This follows the Somalian presidential """"""election"""""" where Hassan Sheikh Mohamud was reelected president by a vote only by MPs in parliament, not by citizens, and 251/275 of those MPs are unelected and were installed by a transitional government overseen by the US, thus making this a """""""democracy""""""""

This is the longest running war the US has been involved in, with an on-again off-again presence and hostilities since the early 90s.
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May 16 2022 12:30pm
biden is everything trump was supposed to be and wasn't
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May 16 2022 12:55pm
Incoming drones of peace and democracy

This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 16 2022 12:57pm
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May 16 2022 01:10pm
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Incoming drones of peace and democracy


Human rights and fair elections.
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May 16 2022 01:45pm
murica is back baby B)
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May 16 2022 01:48pm
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/05/16/reversing-trump-biden-acts-deploy-us-troops-somalia.html/amp

Reversing Trump, Biden Acts to Deploy US Troops to Somalia

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16 May 2022
Associated Press | By Aamer Madhani
WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden on Monday signed an order to deploy U.S. troops to Somalia amid heightened concerns about the country's Islamic extremist rebels, known as al-Shabab. The move is a reversal of President Donald Trump's late-term decision to remove nearly all 700 special operations forces that had been operating there.

Biden's decision, confirmed by a senior administration official, comes after Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin requested the deployment “to reestablish a persistent U.S. military presence in Somalia to enable a more effective fight against al-Shabaab, which has increased in strength and poses a heightened threat.”



ah yes the never-ending swamp-demon military industrial complex. that’s why brandon wants to increase taxes - to give favorable no-bid contracts to more armaments companies. congress and the exec branch then purchase the shares of said companies in advance. department of “defense” indeed

per the government, our borders are not in texas or california or arizona. they’re in ukraine and somalia :wacko:

the resident types who claim to be anti-war/not pro-biden and “libertarian” or “liberal” will undoubtedly defend this decision and justify it!
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May 16 2022 01:56pm
Serious question from the west, what would it hypothetically require to turn underdeveloped/third world countries into self-sufficient countries with opportunity to grow and advance. What is holding them back? Lack of technology? Lack of money? Lack of safety and security? Lack of cultural integrity? I honestly want to know.

If I can help the world become prosperous I’d like to. I’m not rich but I’m not poor. I’ve been poor. Never been rich. I never turned to crime, never resorted to violence. Millions and millions of people worse off than me can say the same thing. How do we get civilized society back on track? Historically I don’t think it’s just money, throwing endless money hasn’t really achieved any goals but to line a few well connected pockets. What is missing? My whole life all I’ve heard about Somolia is pirates and destitution. Why?
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May 16 2022 02:04pm

wondering how you morons blame other countrys for what? defending itself?

USA is so fucking disgusting

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Serious question from the west, what would it hypothetically require to turn underdeveloped/third world countries into self-sufficient countries with opportunity to grow and advance. What is holding them back? Lack of technology? Lack of money? Lack of safety and security? Lack of cultural integrity? I honestly want to know.

If I can help the world become prosperous I’d like to. I’m not rich but I’m not poor. I’ve been poor. Never been rich. I never turned to crime, never resorted to violence. Millions and millions of people worse off than me can say the same thing. How do we get civilized society back on track? Historically I don’t think it’s just money, throwing endless money hasn’t really achieved any goals but to line a few well connected pockets. What is missing? My whole life all I’ve heard about Somolia is pirates and destitution. Why?


Resources are just one part of the equation. It doesn't really matter how much money you throw at a region, if they don't have the civil infrastructure with a population that buys in, nothing will change.

What happens in a lot of these places is even when they get millions in aid, the people in power loot it, with only a fraction going towards solving issues. Family members and allies get decision making spots, while the pleb is left to stand for himself. People also don't buy into institutions like governments when in very poor places they do little to nothing for them.

Look at Sri Lanka right now. So much of the world operates like this.
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May 16 2022 02:11pm
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Serious question from the west, what would it hypothetically require to turn underdeveloped/third world countries into self-sufficient countries with opportunity to grow and advance. What is holding them back? Lack of technology? Lack of money? Lack of safety and security? Lack of cultural integrity? I honestly want to know.

If I can help the world become prosperous I’d like to. I’m not rich but I’m not poor. I’ve been poor. Never been rich. I never turned to crime, never resorted to violence. Millions and millions of people worse off than me can say the same thing. How do we get civilized society back on track? Historically I don’t think it’s just money, throwing endless money hasn’t really achieved any goals but to line a few well connected pockets. What is missing? My whole life all I’ve heard about Somolia is pirates and destitution. Why?


Corruption. Too many hungry gangs and warlords praying on the people.

Option 1 let them rot
Option 2 send dependancies and food aid which end up in the hands of Pirates anyway
Option 3 send drones and marines to wipe the scum
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