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May 12 2022 01:17pm
14th Amendment: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States… are citizens of the US and of the State wherein they reside…”

No mention of the rights of the unborn, only born, so the right of an unborn fetus is not enumerated in the Constitution.

Just want to make sure all the Constitution lovers here understand this.
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May 12 2022 01:19pm
by this logic, you can just punch pregnant women in the gut.
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May 12 2022 01:22pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ May 12 2022 02:19pm)
by this logic, you can just punch pregnant women in the gut.


Imagine thinking that logically follows from what the OP said.

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May 12 2022 01:22pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ May 12 2022 12:19pm)
by this logic, you can just punch pregnant women in the gut.



That’s still assault on the gut. It’s quite impossible to punch a fetus without also punching the owner of the fetus. And it is also assault on personal property.

For the Christians here on PaRD, you’ll also understand that the Bible is extremely clear that a fetus is to be treated as personal property and that independent life does not begin until first breath.
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May 12 2022 01:23pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ May 12 2022 02:17pm)
14th Amendment: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States… are citizens of the US and of the State wherein they reside…”

No mention of the rights of the unborn, only born, so the right of an unborn fetus is not enumerated in the Constitution.

Just want to make sure all the Constitution lovers here understand this.


Roe v Wade:

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If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment.


If they're defined as legal persons, their unborn state is irrelevant. t4t
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May 12 2022 01:33pm
Quote (Santara @ May 12 2022 12:23pm)
Roe v Wade:



If they're defined as legal persons, their unborn state is irrelevant. t4t



Ah, so if they’re defined as legal persons, a pregnant Honduran immigrant’s fetus has natural rights and therefore the mother cannot be deported based on that citizen’s rights.

Conservatives just ended anchor migration. You don’t need to have the baby anymore. Just show up pregnant.

Brilliant.
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May 12 2022 01:35pm
Quote (Santara @ May 12 2022 02:23pm)
Roe v Wade:



If they're defined as legal persons, their unborn state is irrelevant. t4t


The decision also referred to a fetus as "potential life", not "life".

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A State may properly assert important interests in safeguarding health, maintaining medical standards, and in protecting potential life.
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May 12 2022 01:38pm
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Ah, so if they’re defined as legal persons, a pregnant Honduran immigrant’s fetus has natural rights and therefore the mother cannot be deported based on that citizen’s rights.

Conservatives just ended anchor migration. You don’t need to have the baby anymore. Just show up pregnant.

Brilliant.


Bible support abortion
Hosea 13:16
The people of Samaria(A) must bear their guilt,(B)
because they have rebelled(C) against their God.
They will fall by the sword;(D)
their little ones will be dashed(E) to the ground,
their pregnant women(F) ripped open.”[a]
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May 12 2022 01:40pm
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The decision also referred to a fetus as "potential life", not "life".



This sets a precedence to place all children on hormone blockers to prevent the ovulation of a potential life or the nocturnal emission of a potential life, both criminal acts, from occurring.
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May 12 2022 01:45pm
Quote (SanduLungu @ 12 May 2022 19:19)
by this logic, you can just punch pregnant women in the gut.


People doing this are quickly terminated
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