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May 11 2022 01:20am
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-61398886


hi there, just a little question, was "golf war syndrome" giving US soldiers the right to have compensation as wounded in war ?
I hope so, else people could think governement tried to reduce costs by letting them with an uncompensated "mysterious disease".
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May 11 2022 01:53am
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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-61398886


hi there, just a little question, was "golf war syndrome" giving US soldiers the right to have compensation as wounded in war ?
I hope so, else people could think governement tried to reduce costs by letting them with an uncompensated "mysterious disease".
Thanks for your enlightment


golf is a sport its g-u-l-f

that was along time ago i am not sure they ever fully figured out what caused it. i heard some stuff about composition of some of the explosive shells. like what the tanks and artillery used?

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 11 2022 01:58am
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golf is a sport its g-u-l-f


my bad; in french it's "guerre du golf"
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May 11 2022 02:09am
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my bad; in french it's "guerre du golf"


ok, no big deal

sarin gas is a new one on me. ya hopefully they will get help. looks like a 2022 article? blame it on sarin gas also seems convenient? but if thats what it takes to recognize that their is a problem?
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May 11 2022 05:35am
Quote (TiStuff @ May 11 2022 03:53am)
golf is a sport its g-u-l-f

that was along time ago i am not sure they ever fully figured out what caused it. i heard some stuff about composition of some of the explosive shells. like what the tanks and artillery used?


Our tanks and ammo have a lot of depleted uranium in them. The spikes on our sabot rounds were DU and the core of our armor was DU.

It could just be the weird side effects of whatever vaccines they were shooting into people going there lol. I just remember getting shots and shots and feeling so shitty in the first week of boot.

I'm pretty fucked up because of my military service too. Luckily it is more concrete stuff and not some mysterious syndrome keeping me from being healthy. I broke my neck in a terrible accident and required emergency surgery in Germany; luckily I recovered fine and just have a couple scars and a titanium plate with five screws in my neck. Other than that it is all knees and hearing loss which I hear is pretty standard for combat soldiers and marines. There are more years between me and it (my enlistment period) than there were me being alive when I enlisted but it all still seems right over my shoulder right behind me even on the best of days. Its pretty far behind me now.

Anyway Gulf War Syndrome could totally be Sarin gas used by either side. War sucks and nobody cares about rules in the moment except kill the other guy and live longer.
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Our tanks and ammo have a lot of depleted uranium in them. The spikes on our sabot rounds were DU and the core of our armor was DU.

It could just be the weird side effects of whatever vaccines they were shooting into people going there lol. I just remember getting shots and shots and feeling so shitty in the first week of boot.

I'm pretty fucked up because of my military service too. Luckily it is more concrete stuff and not some mysterious syndrome keeping me from being healthy. I broke my neck in a terrible accident and required emergency surgery in Germany; luckily I recovered fine and just have a couple scars and a titanium plate with five screws in my neck. Other than that it is all knees and hearing loss which I hear is pretty standard for combat soldiers and marines. There are more years between me and it (my enlistment period) than there were me being alive when I enlisted but it all still seems right over my shoulder right behind me even on the best of days. Its pretty far behind me now.

Anyway Gulf War Syndrome could totally be Sarin gas used by either side. War sucks and nobody cares about rules in the moment except kill the other guy and live longer.


OK
But is it possible that generals could cover this for financial reasons ? And if covered, who is taking the decision ? Government ?
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May 11 2022 07:20am
Quote (TiStuff @ May 11 2022 02:53am)
golf is a sport its g-u-l-f

that was along time ago i am not sure they ever fully figured out what caused it. i heard some stuff about composition of some of the explosive shells. like what the tanks and artillery used?


Listen sport. If you're going to trash someone for their grammar or spelling, you should probably have your house in order.

It's a long time ago, not along time ago.
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May 11 2022 08:33am
Quote (Skinned @ May 11 2022 06:35am)
Our tanks and ammo have a lot of depleted uranium in them. The spikes on our sabot rounds were DU and the core of our armor was DU.

It could just be the weird side effects of whatever vaccines they were shooting into people going there lol. I just remember getting shots and shots and feeling so shitty in the first week of boot.

I'm pretty fucked up because of my military service too. Luckily it is more concrete stuff and not some mysterious syndrome keeping me from being healthy. I broke my neck in a terrible accident and required emergency surgery in Germany; luckily I recovered fine and just have a couple scars and a titanium plate with five screws in my neck. Other than that it is all knees and hearing loss which I hear is pretty standard for combat soldiers and marines. There are more years between me and it (my enlistment period) than there were me being alive when I enlisted but it all still seems right over my shoulder right behind me even on the best of days. Its pretty far behind me now.

Anyway Gulf War Syndrome could totally be Sarin gas used by either side. War sucks and nobody cares about rules in the moment except kill the other guy and live longer.


Sounds like the researchers are pretty solid on the cause being sarin. Something to do with the effectiveness of a specific gene that breaks down toxic chemicals. Their initial finding that it wasn't DU was published over a year ago, and that study showed that there wasn't any appreciable about of DU found in test subjects who suffered from GWS.

What I'd be curious to know would be to what extent the government will cover treatment of GWS, based on this new information (similar to how they cover Agent Orange treatment for Vietnam vets). If sarin is the cause, then they could argue that it wasn't anything directly attributable to the US military, like DU in tank armor and sabot rounds, that caused the illness. AO was directly attributable to the US (we directly used it in Vietnam), whereas sarin would be collateral damage from enemy stockpiles, as opposed to something we directly applied on the battlefield.

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May 11 2022 11:43am
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Listen sport. If you're going to trash someone for their grammar or spelling, you should probably have your house in order.

It's a long time ago, not along time ago.


i didnt do it in the same spirit you do it in and...........

Quote (TiStuff @ May 11 2022 01:09am)
ok, no big deal

sarin gas is a new one on me. ya hopefully they will get help. looks like a 2022 article? blame it on sarin gas also seems convenient? but if thats what it takes to recognize that their is a problem?


so you dont have anything
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May 11 2022 01:00pm
Finally got my answer on internet, intersting article, 80% of GWI soldiers complaining of symptoms have not being taken seriously.
200 000 veterans. Genetic predisposition triggered the symptoms. Think twice before going to war, sad.
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